Commonalities – Episode 2 – Transcript

21Nov, 2022
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Starting now.

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Commonalities where guests find
common ground through uncommon

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conversations, politics,
religion, finances,

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all the topics your grandmother told
you not to discuss with friends.

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And now your host, Matthew Dowling,

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and today's guests commonalities.

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Well, everyone, thank you for
joining us today on commonalities.

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I'm your host, Matt Doley, and I
have a wonderful guest with me today.

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Uh, Lois.

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Lois has been involved in local
politics for over 20 years.

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Um, she's been involved in
school board elections. Uh,

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she's an advocate for school choice,

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and as many of you have come to know, uh,

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this new program is about, uh,

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seeing two sides to an issue.

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Today we're going to be
talking primarily about, uh,

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school choice through a, uh,

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a school board member
and a parent's eyes. Um,

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and then at a later point in time,

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we'll be talking with some of our
advocates for public education, uh,

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even though they may not be in favor of
the type of choice that we're discussing

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today, um,

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we'll get them on the show another time
to talk about the flip side of this

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issue. Lois, thank you so
much for being with me today.

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I wanted to give you a chance to kind
of introduce yourself and to give us a

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little bit of background, um,

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because you are extremely experienced
in what you're gonna be talking about

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today.

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Well, thank you, Matt. Thank
you for having me. I'm,

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my name is Lois Kahiki and I, um,

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and the Pennsylvania State
Coordinator for Moms for Liberty.

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And our goal is to defend parents
rights and education at all levels of

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government. And I came on board, I'm the
first state coordinator they've hired,

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uh, came on board in June, and we
are organized at the county level.

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So we have county chapters. Uh,
people can go to our website,

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moms for liberty.org and see if you
have a chapter set up in your county.

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And if not, you know, we want
to start one. So <laugh>,

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I'd love to talk to you about
people about that. But, uh,

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we're trying to empower,
uh, parents, grandparents,

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community members on how they can have
an impact and have a voice in their

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local schools. And, uh, of
course advocate for, uh,

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parental rights and
education. And, um, I've been,

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I've been interested in education issues
forever. I just believe, you know,

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a good education is the great leveler
of society no matter what it, uh,

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circumstances you're born into.
If you get a good education,

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you can make better, uh,
better, uh, life for yourself.

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And that's what America's all about,
right? Is giving people opportunity, uh,

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giving them a chance at the American
dream, which I very much, uh, believe in.

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But, uh, you need to have a
good start in life. You know,

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we spend a lot of money
on public education,

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and we deserve to have an excellent
product, and I think we're falling short,

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and I think a lot of people
feel that way these days.

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Yeah, and, and I would
tend to agree with you, uh,

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while I try to stay kind of neutral on
this show as a moderator, there's, uh,

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you know,

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no lying about the fact that I've been
a strong proponent for school choice,

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uh, because I think parents know best
what their own kids need in the classroom.

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Um, so, you know, sometimes I have
to put my moderator hat on, but I,

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I think people already
know my point of view, um,

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when it comes to education. And
I think there's an important, uh,

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piece that we need to kind of
mention up front. Um, you know,

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I don't wanna speak for you,

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but I don't think that those who are
educators in our public school system

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are bad people by any, uh, stretch
of the imagination. You know,

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I know we keep funding
education at larger and larger,

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uh, amounts each year in
the, uh, in the state budget.

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And I know that we've run into a
budget deficit when it comes to

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those school teachers
retirement funds. Uh,

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and I think what's important
to remember is that, you know,

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these are good people. For the most part.

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They're people that are trying to do
the best job that they possibly can.

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They were made, uh,
promises, I'll be them,

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bad promises about their
retirement. And, uh, as politicians,

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we kind have to check
the blame up to them,

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not to the teachers that we've fallen
into the pension crisis that we have that

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is making, uh, education so expensive.

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So I just wanted to kind of lead
with the fact that I, you know,

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I don't think educators are bad, and
I don't think you do either, Lois.

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That's correct. Right?

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No, uh, uh, but educators are like
every other profession, Matt, you know,

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there's a range of, uh, good
and not as good, uh, uh,

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educators. The same there is in every
other profession, right? I mean, uh,

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in most, uh, areas of life,

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you want to have choice and choose
who you go to for your services,

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your professional services, whether
it's getting your car fixed,

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your doctor or lawyer, um,

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and you wanna be able to choose who
you think is right for you. And, uh,

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unfortunately, that, um, that that
free market approach doesn't apply,

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unfortunately, in our
education system. Um, you know,

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not all teachers are equally good.
There are a lot of excellent teachers,

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but there are some that aren't,
uh, uh, really measuring up.

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And that's the reality of it. And
anyone in, in the public schools knows,

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knows that. And, uh, I've talked to
parents every year, they're like, oh,

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we pray we don't get teacher X because
the teacher X is no good. You know, and,

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and it's just the, it's just the
fact. And teachers know it too,

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and they don't like the fact that there
are teachers that aren't doing, uh,

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their job, but the union
protects, uh, these, these people.

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And that's a blemish on the
whole system. But yes, and.

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You.

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Knows.

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You know, I think you made an
excellent comparison there,

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and I've never really thought
of it this way, but, uh,

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with the accent that I had last October,
I've had to have subsequent surgeries,

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uh, several times
throughout the last year.

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And I've gotten a second
opinion many times, uh,

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after I've met with one surgeon. And
kind of getting that second opinion,

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uh, or another point of view,

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is something that we don't always
have the choice with as parents in the

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public education system. And, and I
think that's a great comparison, uh,

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because even when it comes to doctors,

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we have that free market approach where
we can pick and choose who our surgeons

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going to be. And in education, we
don't always get that opportunity.

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Lois and I will be talking about some of
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I'm with Lois, uh, today, and
we're talking about, uh, education,

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primarily school choice,
and, uh, we wanna talk now,

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we were kind of at the, the 30,000
foot view when we open the show.

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Now we wanna talk a little bit about
the most alarming trends in education.

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So, uh, tell me what some of those
trends are looking like, Lois.

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Well,

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probably the most alarming trend today
is what is called social emotional

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learning, and that you'll hear
the term thrown around a lot,

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and it sounds warm and fuzzy, and it
sounds like it has good intentions.

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It's actually been around for a long time,

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but it's being used to data
mine. Our children collect a lot,

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a lot of data on them for the ultimate
goal of grooming their attitudes, values,

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and beliefs.

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So education is becoming less and
less about academic learning and

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academic achievement, and
more about shaping the,

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what kids think and how they
think it and what they believe.

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And we see this time and time again in
the schools, even with young children.

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So, uh, and, and this is being
done in a variety of ways,

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and I want parents to really be on the
lookout for surveys that children are be

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being given in the classroom.
They may be on paper,

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they may be on their
Chromebooks or their iPads.

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They could be done in a
variety of different ways,

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but you really need to be aware of this,

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and you need to talk to
your teachers about it,

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and it's being integrated
into the curriculum. So, uh,

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it's, and it's, it could possibly
be in every subject in every grade,

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and it's being done, uh,
standalone surveys, and again,

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as part of the curriculum. So, uh, you
need to be aware of this. You should,

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in my view, uh,

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you be well served and your children
will be well served to opt out of these

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surveys. Uh,

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they are relying on gathering
lots and lots of data because

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gathering this data is going to
tell them it's going to, they're,

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they're training themselves how they
can best reach your child with the most

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effective message to groom their
attitudes, values, and beliefs.

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So they're doing personality
surveys, personality tests, um,

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they're finding out about your family
because they're doing personality profiles

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so they can target individual
messages through the internet,

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through a computerization,
uh, a technology, uh,

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directly to your child. They can't
do if they don't gather the data.

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So you should make every effort
to opt out of these surveys. And,

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um, there are a lot of opt out
forms that are available now. Uh,

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we have a lot of optout forms, um,

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and this is something that parents
really need to be aware of. But,

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um, with our academic achievement
on the decline, again,

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the National Association of Education
Progress Report just came in.

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Our scores are worse than ever.
And it's, it's not just covid,

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it's because of Common Core that the
General Assembly adopted in 2014.

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And it, this has been going
back for, uh, over a generation,

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but now it's just really come to a head.

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So the social emotional learning
is a very serious problem.

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It should be outlawed,
in my view. And, um,

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and because of the data mining and what
they're actually trying to achieve with

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it, which is not academic achievement.

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And another very alarming
trend, which is related,

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is the hypersexualization of our children,

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particularly at very young ages.
And I just read in, uh, Lebanon,

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uh, school district, I
think it was Lebanon School,

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just one of those Lebanon County,
uh, Noal, Meer, excuse me,

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they just adopted a K
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curriculum starting in
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I don't know what parent thinks that they
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T Q, uh, uh, uh, subjects
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you know, that's your prerogative.

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But I think the majority of parents
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And it's not being transparent to
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on. And I'm very much in favor of
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so that schools have to post curriculum
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parents can see what their kids are
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there's just no reason
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particularly in elementary school,

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we're seeing more and more mental
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gender confusion issues. This is not
normal, that this is really not normal.

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And it's being instigated by
people pushing subjects on children

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in an inappropriate way when
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and just really trying to find out
who they are. And, and, and it,

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it's just very disturbing. We
just had a suicide here in, uh,

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I think it was the Gettysburg
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And then we think it's related to
gender, uh, gender confusion issue.

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I'm sure you're gonna be hearing more
of that, but it's, um, it's just so sad.

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We don't wanna lose any more children
to this problem. And, uh, we,

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we need, we're not following the science.

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We're following a political agenda,

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and we need to stand up to it, Matt. Um,

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and parents really need to talk to
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from the time they're very young.

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You need to talk to your kids about
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and keep that line of communication
open, because this can happen to anyone.

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And one day you wake up and your
child just is not the same. And it,

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it's just so, it's so sad. And I,
I just, I, I just don't, you know,

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none of us really wanna see, none
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um, it's a very alarming trend,

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something that must be fought
and parents must be keeping

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an eye on.

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Well, let me take off my, uh,
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and, uh, and the hat of
the retired legislator, um,

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and put on my parent hat because I have
a nine year old and a 10 year old, uh,

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little boys that are at home, um,
they attend school at, at, uh,

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Commonwealth Charter Academy. Um, but I,

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I think what you're talking
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people's way of life. And if you have, um,

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people like yourself or like
myself who maybe lean, uh, to,

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uh, some traditional family values,
if that's what we wanna call them, um,

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when we send our kids to school,

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I don't think we want them
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antithesis or, or different from, uh,
the message that we teach at home.

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And, and I think respecting
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If you choose to have
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about a kid's sexuality with
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When it's done in a classroom, I think
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And, uh, and I think that, uh,
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the crux of the issue is, uh, as you
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is that there's simply no room for
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you know, we, we wouldn't
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about the sexuality of their teachers.

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And we don't want our teachers talking
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they're at school in the classroom.

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It's actually worse than that, Matt.

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It's not just a matter of conflicting
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but it's a, it's a matter of
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There are certain topics that
are inappropriate age-wise
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ages that not to discuss certain
topics. I mean, in, in certain schools,

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children are being exposed
to graphic sexual acts in

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literature before it,
it is age appropriate.

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If that's ever age appropriate, I don't
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you can be exposed to something and it
not have it affect you in a negative way.

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But if you're a preteen or
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these topics have not ever even been
brought up or come into your mind before,

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and all of a sudden you're, you're
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of children performing oral sex
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that can be, if it's presented
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it can be psychologically
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Imagine that child who doesn't
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talking to a parent or guardian
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they see it in school and they, they
just are confused, right? And they, they,

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they feel shame and guilt, and they,
they don't know who to turn to. What,

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what becomes of that child? Who does
that child have? And they, they,

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you know, there is an agenda where they
want the children to speak to government

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employees when they're feeling
vulnerable, not their parents.

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And that also is a dangerous
trend, right? Because, uh, uh,

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we want to hold families together.
We want families to be strong.

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We don't want state
workers supplanting or,

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or becoming, uh, who children
go to further support.

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So, uh, there, there's a lot
going on that's very, that,

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that's wrong on multiple levels.

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And sometimes by the time parents
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And we wanna try to prevent that by,

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by being proactive and making
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into schools, particularly in
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Let's not wait till the
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let's prevent it from
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you talked a little bit earlier in the
program about opt out opportunities,

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and I wanna talk a little
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the specific opt outs that, uh,
we want parents to be aware of,

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uh, in relation to these alarming trends
that are happening in, in education,

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but also in regards to
that data mining. And, uh,

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I'm gonna get to that as soon as we get
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But when we come back, I
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alerting parents of some of
the ways that they can opt out.

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So we'll be back after these messages.

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You're listening to Commonalities.
And I'm your host, Matt Dowling. Uh,

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beside my guest Lois today. And it's not
just that we are on first name basis,

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but she has an extremely
difficult last name to pronounce,

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and I know I would butcher that. So Lois,

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if you wanna throw your last
name out there, um, be my guest.

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Yes, it's Lois Kahiki and I'm
with the Moms for Liberty.

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Well, it's so great to have
you on the program today.

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We were talking a little bit about,

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about ways parents should
be familiar to opt out their

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students of data mining and some of the
trends that are happening in education.

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So why don't you educate us a little bit
about how a parent can take those, uh,

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important issues into their own hands
and decide that they're gonna opt their

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son or daughter, their student out of, uh,

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conversations or testing in school.

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Right. Well, um, there's a couple
things. Uh, there are some, uh,

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pre-made optout forms. There's
one on courage is habit org.

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Courage is habit org.

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You can get ahold of someone at Mom's
for Liberty and ask for a pre-made form.

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But most importantly, I think, uh,

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speak for like already
into the school year,

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but speak to your teachers about
surveys given in the classroom and

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assessments and social
emotional learning assessments.

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They are doing social
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If your teacher says they aren't,

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the teacher either doesn't realize
that they're doing it or they're lying,

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but they're doing it on the,

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they may be doing it on the computer and
the teacher doesn't even know because

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of the programs that
they're using. So, um,

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at first I would talk
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that you want to see any surveys
before any surveys are given in class.

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You want to see the survey and be
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before and you are going to
approve any survey. Your,

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your child does not have advanced
approval from you to give any survey

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without a notice in advance.
And I would put that in writing.

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I would maybe sit down with the
teacher, talk to them about it first,

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if I put it in writing
and, and give it to them,

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give them a copy and ask them to sign
that they acknowledge and that they will

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honor your wishes. And I
think it's very important, uh,

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to sit down with the teacher if you
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I just think it's better to
look the teacher in the eye
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serious. Uh, and um, then, um, you know,

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depending on how that
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you'll get a good enough feel if you
think the teacher is going to honor your

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wishes. Maybe if you're not sure,
you can go up the chain of command.

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You can go to the building
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but I would definitely go to
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and address it in that way.

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If you see other material in the
classroom that you don't want your child

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exposed to, you do have the right
to opt out. Your, your, your, uh,

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school district should have a
policy on curriculum and opting out.

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If you go to the,

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your school district website and you
look under school board policies, uh,

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they're organized, but in the
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I think it's in the 200 level, it'll
help you find it. If you can't find it,

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call the administration office and
ask for how to read the district,

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uh, policy on curriculum.

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And it should be in there how you
opt their policy and how you opt

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out of cur of any particular
curricula. They don't have a policy,

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then you should be able to opt out
because, uh, uh, I think it's, you know,

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you have the right, you have to assume
you have the right, you are the parent,

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but you just sort of wanna go by
their process to, uh, you know,

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and they'll make it easier for you. But,
um, always assume that as the parent,

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you have the right to do what's
right for your child. Uh,

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then the next question is, well, while
the classroom is doing this curriculum,

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what is your child going to be doing? And
that's something you have to work out.

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You can maybe find something on your own
that you would prefer your child to do,

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or then you're going to have to,
um, you know, ask the teacher, uh,

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what, what they're gonna
provide. But, you know,

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then you're getting into risky territory
cuz they don't want the extra work.

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But, um, those are some,
some tips and, you know,

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that I would recommend where to start.

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And I think if a parent
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maybe this is happening someplace
else in the United States,

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it's not happening in my kids'
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or Somerset County or
Bedford County, uh, I, I,

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I unfortunately have to say that I
think that assumption is, is wrong.

443
00:28:24,150 --> 00:28:29,000
I was speaking recently to a
retired professor from, uh,

444
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:33,640
my college alma Mater
Waynesburg University. And, uh,

445
00:28:33,750 --> 00:28:36,870
this, uh, professor in, uh,

446
00:28:36,870 --> 00:28:41,110
in particular was telling me
that part of her decision to,

447
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:42,070
uh,

448
00:28:42,070 --> 00:28:47,070
retire from educating was that
these kind of assessments were

449
00:28:47,070 --> 00:28:49,790
being forced upon her in her classroom.

450
00:28:50,370 --> 00:28:53,350
And the administration of the college, uh,

451
00:28:53,350 --> 00:28:58,230
was not giving her any choice as to
whether or not to use these assessments.

452
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,830
Uh, they were being required.
Now that's on someone, uh,

453
00:29:01,900 --> 00:29:06,710
students that are a little bit older that
maybe have a little bit more of their,

454
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:07,550
uh,

455
00:29:07,550 --> 00:29:12,510
their own ability to know if they
should complete an assessment or

456
00:29:12,510 --> 00:29:14,510
not, uh, their college-aged kids.

457
00:29:14,730 --> 00:29:19,310
But it is happening down to
elementary school level, uh,

458
00:29:19,310 --> 00:29:22,190
from what I understand in
some of our local classrooms.

459
00:29:23,090 --> 00:29:27,310
Yes, it is. And you should assume it's
going on, even starting in kindergarten.

460
00:29:27,580 --> 00:29:32,150
I it, I mean, they're giving even
kindergarten students these iPads. Uh,

461
00:29:32,150 --> 00:29:33,110
you know, kindergarten,

462
00:29:33,110 --> 00:29:37,630
there is no academic
reason why K through third

463
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:42,000
graders. I I would say all of
elementary school needs, uh,

464
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,200
iPads or Chromebooks. I mean,

465
00:29:45,020 --> 00:29:47,560
and in many ways they can
be abused and they can,

466
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,280
they can hinder academic development.

467
00:29:50,490 --> 00:29:53,600
So they're only being
used for data collection.

468
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,080
That is the only justification.
They're not gonna tell you that,

469
00:29:57,300 --> 00:30:01,960
but that's really what it's
all about. Um, so I, I,

470
00:30:02,060 --> 00:30:05,440
you know, I remembered when I
was on the school board, uh,

471
00:30:05,550 --> 00:30:08,760
when that came up and I knew that
it was going in the wrong path,

472
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:13,120
but I just knew I couldn't convince my
colleagues not to buy those Chromebooks.

473
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:18,000
But, um, I, I would get rid of the
Chromebooks in all of elementary school.

474
00:30:18,290 --> 00:30:21,160
Go back to, there was
nothing wrong with textbooks.

475
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,800
There is nothing wrong with
pen and paper, you know, uh,

476
00:30:24,900 --> 00:30:28,960
and kids learn better when they
write anyway than when they type. So,

477
00:30:29,610 --> 00:30:33,890
um, that's, you know, that's
another issue. If, if you,

478
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:38,370
it's funny if you read about the big tech
mobiles, you know, in Silicon Valley,

479
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:43,690
they, they don't give their young
children technology devices to work,

480
00:30:43,690 --> 00:30:45,810
to play on and work on.
They don't want them.

481
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,290
They know that stuff isn't
good for them. So, um,

482
00:30:49,290 --> 00:30:52,970
it's very interesting because that's
their industry and they know not to put

483
00:30:52,970 --> 00:30:54,970
their young children on those devices.

484
00:30:56,850 --> 00:31:01,750
You know, and you talk a little bit about
the, uh, the Silicon Valley companies,

485
00:31:01,750 --> 00:31:06,510
those high-tech, uh, organizations
that are out there. And, uh,

486
00:31:06,510 --> 00:31:10,030
you know, I'm, it's not
directly related to education,

487
00:31:10,030 --> 00:31:14,710
but I'm looking at our election
process and the fact that, uh,

488
00:31:14,710 --> 00:31:19,030
companies like Facebook were putting
money into our independent elections

489
00:31:19,260 --> 00:31:23,790
here within the Commonwealth of
Pennsylvania. Uh, we refer to that, uh,

490
00:31:23,790 --> 00:31:28,510
in the legislature as Zucker bucks,
uh, that were being spent to help,

491
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,910
uh, help operate, um,

492
00:31:31,550 --> 00:31:36,430
elections and kind of gave an
in, uh, unfair advantage. Uh,

493
00:31:36,430 --> 00:31:39,150
my question to you, and, and maybe
you know this, maybe you don't,

494
00:31:39,370 --> 00:31:41,950
are some of those same tech
companies, because remember,

495
00:31:41,950 --> 00:31:46,950
if we're not paying for something,
uh, likely we are the product. And,

496
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,910
uh, my question is, are some
of those tech companies, um,

497
00:31:51,260 --> 00:31:56,230
donating or facilitating the
use of their technology to our

498
00:31:56,390 --> 00:32:00,630
children because they want, uh, some of
that data that's being mined as well?

499
00:32:00,970 --> 00:32:05,630
And then in that process, our
kids become the product, uh,

500
00:32:05,630 --> 00:32:07,790
that's out there for monetary gain?

501
00:32:09,210 --> 00:32:09,700
Yeah,

502
00:32:09,700 --> 00:32:13,900
I don't know if it's so much they want
the data or that it's just a big money

503
00:32:13,900 --> 00:32:16,940
for them and it's a multi-billion
dollar industry right now.

504
00:32:16,940 --> 00:32:21,220
They want a piece of that,
uh, public education pie. Um,

505
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,460
you know, I I, I may be
different than other people. I,

506
00:32:25,460 --> 00:32:29,260
I know that they're collecting data
on me every time I do a Google search.

507
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:34,300
And I kind of don't care that they're
marketing to me cuz I'm an adult and I can

508
00:32:34,300 --> 00:32:38,260
choose what I wanna buy and
what I don't wanna buy. But I,

509
00:32:38,260 --> 00:32:42,160
when it comes to our children
and our education, it,

510
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:46,520
it bothers me a lot because
we are substituting Ed

511
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,800
something else for what is supposed
to be happening in school. It's a,

512
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,520
it's the biggest scam and
rip off of our lifetime mat.

513
00:32:54,940 --> 00:32:57,920
And that is what really concerns me.

514
00:33:00,490 --> 00:33:03,500
Well, we do have to, we have
to get one more break in here.

515
00:33:03,500 --> 00:33:07,220
It'll be our final break of the
program, and then we'll close to, uh,

516
00:33:07,220 --> 00:33:10,300
come to close things up.
And in our final segment,

517
00:33:10,410 --> 00:33:14,780
I wanna be able to get time in there
to talk about upcoming school board

518
00:33:15,260 --> 00:33:19,380
elections and what people should know
about their local school boards and the

519
00:33:19,660 --> 00:33:24,540
candidates that are putting their
names forward to go on that ballot. Um,

520
00:33:24,540 --> 00:33:29,540
so we'll be talking about elections
here in our final segment today. Also,

521
00:33:29,900 --> 00:33:34,420
we're talking about, um,
the kind of right side, uh,

522
00:33:34,420 --> 00:33:37,420
not right or left, uh,
right or left, excuse me,

523
00:33:37,420 --> 00:33:40,100
not right or wrong side of this issue.

524
00:33:40,430 --> 00:33:44,660
If you happen to disagree with anything
that's mentioned on today's podcast

525
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:49,860
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526
00:33:49,860 --> 00:33:52,180
sides of this issue, please uh,

527
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drop me an
email@infocommonalities.online or

528
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529
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Well, thank you for tuning in
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574
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is, uh, Matt Dowling, and, uh,

575
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,280
I'm your host for today's show
and we're with speaking to Lois,

576
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:17,960
and we wanted to talk a little
bit about elections and their

577
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,920
consequences and the
school board elections,

578
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,920
which are very important that will
be coming up here in the near future.

579
00:37:25,820 --> 00:37:30,500
Yes, yes. So I know everybody's,
uh, thinking about next week,

580
00:37:30,500 --> 00:37:34,420
which they should be. It's an important,
very important election as well. Uh,

581
00:37:34,420 --> 00:37:37,500
but these elections keep getting more
and more important it seems like every

582
00:37:37,500 --> 00:37:40,020
year. Uh, next spring already,

583
00:37:40,020 --> 00:37:42,980
we have primaries for local elections,

584
00:37:42,980 --> 00:37:47,300
which includes local school boards
and half of your school boards.

585
00:37:47,710 --> 00:37:52,220
Uh, for directors, you have nine school
directors in every school district and,

586
00:37:52,470 --> 00:37:52,820
uh,

587
00:37:52,820 --> 00:37:57,700
at least five of them will be up for
election in the spring and anyone can

588
00:37:57,700 --> 00:38:02,620
run for school board. Uh, you just
need to file the paperwork in, uh,

589
00:38:02,620 --> 00:38:06,860
March and you're on the
primary ballot. Um, and, um,

590
00:38:06,870 --> 00:38:09,500
we need people who are going to, uh,

591
00:38:09,500 --> 00:38:12,980
stand up to these alarming trends
that we've discussed in education,

592
00:38:12,980 --> 00:38:17,020
the hypersexual sexualization
of our children, and, uh,

593
00:38:17,020 --> 00:38:21,500
data mining and social emotional
learning. It's all, uh, it's all bad.

594
00:38:21,500 --> 00:38:23,620
And every day that goes by, uh,

595
00:38:23,620 --> 00:38:27,780
our children are losing more academic
learning because we don't have school

596
00:38:27,780 --> 00:38:32,100
boards that are asking the tough
questions or taking the bull by the horns.

597
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:33,580
You know, we have these, uh,

598
00:38:33,580 --> 00:38:38,400
this culture and school boards where
school directors go to meetings and they

599
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,560
allow the superintendent to just throw
a bunch of stuff in front of them,

600
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,880
and then they rubber stamp everything
and then they go home. And,

601
00:38:44,980 --> 00:38:48,080
and I know I'm, I'm trivializing
what school directors do.

602
00:38:48,190 --> 00:38:51,000
I was a school director for
four years. But in, in essence,

603
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:55,360
that's what it mostly is, uh,
with, with very few exceptions.

604
00:38:55,420 --> 00:38:57,680
And those days are over met.

605
00:38:57,730 --> 00:39:02,680
We need school directors to be
proactive and to start developing

606
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:07,600
policies and procedures that are
fighting back against, uh, the,

607
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:12,480
the stuff and making sure when they hire
district administrators that they are

608
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,640
on the same page. And, uh, we,

609
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:20,280
we have to hire district administrators
that aren't going to put up with this.

610
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,480
And I'll give you a
quick example. Um, in a,

611
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,400
in a school district
that I'm close to, um,

612
00:39:25,720 --> 00:39:29,720
apparently there was a brand new teacher
in third grade that it got back to

613
00:39:29,720 --> 00:39:33,440
school director, I guess that
first day of class, this new,

614
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,400
this new teacher asked her
third graders, these are seven,

615
00:39:37,540 --> 00:39:41,440
six and seven year olds, Matt,
which pronoun they wanted to use.

616
00:39:41,700 --> 00:39:43,640
Now can, can you imagine that?

617
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:47,240
So this got back to the
superintendent and to his credit,

618
00:39:47,330 --> 00:39:50,560
he went to the teacher quietly
and didn't make a big deal at him.

619
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,720
He went to the teacher quietly
and said, we don't do that here,

620
00:39:54,030 --> 00:39:58,360
just very firmly. And she
said, oh, okay. She said,

621
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:02,520
that's what they taught us to
do in teacher school. You see,

622
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,560
this is another problem is our
teacher certification programs,

623
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:10,120
which we could hopefully
change legislatively, I,
I hope in the future. Um,

624
00:40:10,340 --> 00:40:14,840
but because we had this superintendent
that understood common sense,

625
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,520
in my view, he nipped it in the bud.

626
00:40:17,540 --> 00:40:22,320
But if you have a woke superintendent
who thinks this is now what we

627
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,800
have to do in third grade for
goodness sake, uh, you know,

628
00:40:25,860 --> 00:40:29,200
now you have a battle on your hands.
You don't wanna hire people like that.

629
00:40:29,450 --> 00:40:34,120
So the school directors have to make
sure the superintendent is on the same

630
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,360
page and that they have all
these policies in place.

631
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,000
They know what's going
on in the classroom.

632
00:40:39,450 --> 00:40:44,360
If you're hiring new teachers straight
out of college, you better be careful.

633
00:40:44,550 --> 00:40:49,160
I I think they almost need re-education
before they start in the classroom.

634
00:40:49,340 --> 00:40:50,520
But, um,

635
00:40:50,700 --> 00:40:54,440
but school directors are very important
Next year we have a majority up for

636
00:40:54,720 --> 00:40:58,040
election, and we need,
we desperately need, uh,

637
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,240
citizens to run who
will help us. It, it's,

638
00:41:01,310 --> 00:41:06,240
it's definitely giving back to your
community. You are not paid. Um, we,

639
00:41:06,240 --> 00:41:09,040
we desperately need people
who are gonna defend, uh,

640
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:13,680
what's right in education for
our children. And, um, uh, I,

641
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,600
I can't overemphasize. I think
today, in my view personally,

642
00:41:17,620 --> 00:41:22,120
the most important people in our country
are governors and school directors.

643
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,640
And I firmly believe that.
And, uh, moms for Liberty,

644
00:41:25,820 --> 00:41:29,240
our chapters are looking
for candidates and they,

645
00:41:29,240 --> 00:41:32,200
a lot of them will be
endorsing candidates next year.

646
00:41:32,330 --> 00:41:36,720
So we gonna be watching these
races very closely. And, um,

647
00:41:37,020 --> 00:41:39,120
and there's a lot at stake.

648
00:41:40,700 --> 00:41:45,040
You know, you mentioned,
uh, the importance of school
directors and, you know,

649
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,600
sometimes it is a very thankless job.

650
00:41:47,930 --> 00:41:50,800
So we have to be thankful
for the people that, uh,

651
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,560
put their name on that ballot and
allow us to vote for them, uh,

652
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:58,480
for that position because they're
stepping up and, and they're taking, uh,

653
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,760
a position that not everyone wants to do.

654
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,760
As someone who has put their name
on a ballot before, uh, you know,

655
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:08,920
I can attest to the fact that that's not
always the simplest decision to make.

656
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:13,760
There's an old joke in politics that
says that school boards are a place for

657
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,560
good politicians to go to die, uh,

658
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:21,080
because you can either raise
taxes or cut services. Um,

659
00:42:21,100 --> 00:42:23,800
but those aren't the only
things that they're able to do.

660
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:28,360
So I would have to say that that jokes
a little, um, outdated. You know,

661
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:33,360
right now they are frontline
defenders for basically our way

662
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:37,520
of life. Uh, and so it's
extremely important that we get,

663
00:42:38,210 --> 00:42:42,440
uh, valuable people, people
that are willing to, uh,

664
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:47,400
stand up and make hard decisions for
no pay and perhaps make some enemies in

665
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,520
the process of doing it. Uh, but it is
so important that those people step up.

666
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,320
And, you know, in my local area,

667
00:42:54,390 --> 00:42:58,160
I would say if I can be a resource to
anyone who's thinking about putting their

668
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:03,000
name on a ballot, you can always contact
me. I'll give you my opinion, uh,

669
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,320
about that and encouragement and help, uh,

670
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,360
if we sit in the same location, uh,

671
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,640
point of view on some of the
issues. But, um, you know,

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it is so important that we get
people geared up for these elections.

673
00:43:16,770 --> 00:43:18,800
We have just about two minutes left,

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00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:23,560
and I wanted to give you a chance to
give your organization's website and

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00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,280
social media, uh,

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00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,960
contact information out so that
people who have been listening today,

677
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,280
if they wanna connect with you
or get further information,

678
00:43:31,430 --> 00:43:32,560
they know how to do it.

679
00:43:34,410 --> 00:43:36,730
Great again. Well, I'm
with Moms for Liberty,

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00:43:37,030 --> 00:43:40,690
and our mission is to
defend parents rights,

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00:43:40,690 --> 00:43:45,650
parents rights in education at
all levels of government. And,

682
00:43:45,860 --> 00:43:46,470
um,

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00:43:46,470 --> 00:43:51,250
our website is moms for
liberty.org and my email

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00:43:51,250 --> 00:43:54,010
address is Lois, that's l o i s,

685
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:58,610
moms for liberty.org. And, um,

686
00:43:58,610 --> 00:44:01,130
these school board elections
are so important. Uh,

687
00:44:01,130 --> 00:44:02,530
I just wanna add that quickly,

688
00:44:02,530 --> 00:44:06,610
that these school boards can do
things the legislature refuses to do.

689
00:44:06,610 --> 00:44:11,250
They can enact curriculum transparency,
get you good curriculum, and, uh,

690
00:44:11,250 --> 00:44:13,850
can oversee everything
going on in this school.

691
00:44:13,850 --> 00:44:18,170
So it's really important
that people step up and, uh,

692
00:44:18,170 --> 00:44:22,650
take the bull by the horns and really,
really stand up to what's going on.

693
00:44:22,650 --> 00:44:27,610
And we're here to support those kinds of
candidates and to give them whatever we

694
00:44:27,610 --> 00:44:30,290
can to, uh, make sure
that they're successful.

695
00:44:31,980 --> 00:44:35,520
Hey, Lois, it has been great to
have you on the program today. Uh,

696
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:39,680
maybe in the future you can be back to
educate us more about what is happening

697
00:44:40,130 --> 00:44:43,960
in, uh, trends of education. Um, again,

698
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,160
you were a great GU guest. Before
you come on the next time, thank,

699
00:44:47,230 --> 00:44:51,920
I will learn how to pronounce your
last name, I promise <laugh>. Uh, but,

700
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,840
uh, but it's, it's a tricky
one for me, so we'll,

701
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,560
we'll learn that before
you come on. Again,

702
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,840
just wanted to thank you for
being with us today and, uh,

703
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:03,360
if you have any questions for
Lois, my guest today, she, uh,

704
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,760
rattle off her contact info. You,

705
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,880
my contact info can be
found@commonalities.online,

706
00:45:10,180 --> 00:45:14,680
and we'll also post the information that
Lois gave you to get ahold of her or

707
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:18,920
her organization. Thank you so
much for listening today. Have, uh,

708
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:20,600
a great week and God bless you all.

709
00:45:21,240 --> 00:45:23,920
Thank you, Matt. Starting now common.

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This has been commonalities,

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00:45:36,060 --> 00:45:38,900
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00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,620
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00:45:42,620 --> 00:45:47,380
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