Episode 25 – Policy with Rep. Josh Kail – Transcript

20Mar, 2023
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Starting now.

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Commonalities where guests find
common ground through uncommon

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conversations, politics,
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all the topics your grandmother told
you not to discuss with friends.

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And now your host, Matthew Dowling,

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and today's guests on commonalities.

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Hey, thank you for joining us on
another episode of Commonalities.

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I'm your host, Matt Dowling,
uh, alongside today's guest, uh,

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representative Josh Kale. Josh is
from the Southern Pennsylvania area.

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And, uh, before we go too
far, I, uh, want to allow you,

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uh,

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representative Kale to give a little bit
of a self introduction of who you are

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and, uh, and what role you hold within
the, uh, the Pennsylvania House.

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Thank you very much, Matt. I
appreciate being on the show.

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I appreciate you having me on the show.
Uh, you are missed and Harrisburg,

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Dennis, for certain, although,
uh, the individual that, uh,

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that replaced you is a, a good lady
and is doing a wonderful job. Um,

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thank you for having me
on. My name is Josh Kale.

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I represent the 15th legislative district
parts of Washington and Beaver County.

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Um, I, my district actually
borders West Virginia and Ohio.

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Uh, lots of natural gas, lots of
coal, lots of, uh, manufacturing.

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It's energy centric. And, uh,

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we have a lot of different things going
on in our region because of the activity

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that's in district now in
Harrisburg. I am the chairman of the,

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uh, Republican, um, policy committee,

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and we are going around the state and
talking about issues that matter. Uh,

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we are talking about the providing
hope and opportunity and,

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um, and ensuring that, uh, that,

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that kids have excellent education
regardless of zip code and opportunity for

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family sustaining jobs and
prosperity by putting more money back

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into our constituents pockets and
excellence in government, um, you know,

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making sure the government's
working for us. Um,

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this week we have a hearing
on permitting reform, uh,

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which sounds very boring, but,

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but we have found is that permitting is
a major obstacle to opportunity in the

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commonwealth of Pennsylvania. And, uh,

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many developers aren't coming here and
are building manufacturing facilities in

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places like Arkansas and Ohio
because of our permitting

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process in Pennsylvania.
At the end of the day,

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we can talk about permitting
and all these boring subjects,

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but it's really about
family sustaining jobs,

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generational family sustaining jobs,

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and how do we get those
here in Pennsylvania? That's
our focus. That's my focus.

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That's the, the, the committee's focus,
and that is also the caucuses focused.

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Um, so I'm looking forward to answering
any questions that you have, Matt,

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just catching up and, uh, telling you
what we're doing and, uh, I could,

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you know, answer, uh, any, any type of
question that you might have for me.

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Sure. So, uh, you know,
you mentioned gas and oil,

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so I wanna start there because,
uh, Fayette County, where we, uh,

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we broadcast out of, uh,

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although we have listeners widen
far on the worldwide web, um,

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in Fayette County, we
are very rich in the, uh,

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Marcella shell layers as well as
the Utica shell layer. And, uh,

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I know there's been ta uh, talk
for years about adding some,

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some kind of a extraction tax. Uh,

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and we know that our fees in
Pennsylvania, or, you know,

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I think the majority of my
listeners have heard this before,

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the fees in Pennsylvania equal
what an excise tax would be, uh,

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in other states. Um,

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tell me if they're still
talk about trying to tax the,

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uh, the gas industry on,
on, on an excise basis.

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Yeah, so there is discussion
on that subject, uh,

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which is remarkable considering how
inflation is jacking up gas prices and

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energy prices as it is, uh,

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doing a tax like this will just continue
that and consumers are gonna be the

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ones that are end up paying
the price. We're already, uh,

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entering into a situation because of
the regional greenhouse gas initiative,

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which Democrats have squarely put us in,

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which is going to be devastating for
consumers with a 30% increase in energy

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cost. That's industrial consumers
and residential consumers. Uh,

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adding an additional tax would
also, uh, be, be devastating. We,

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we are fighting against that, uh,

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to ensure that our energy industry, uh,

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has the tools it needs to keep
producing, because at the end of the day,

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it's about lowering costs and energy,
and it's about having abundant,

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affordable energy so that we
can have, um, you know, uh,

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lower energy bills and have jobs
here in manufacturing and production

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and things of that nature. So, uh,

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I don't think it will be
on the front burner, uh,

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and the Shapiro administration
right out of the gates. Uh,

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because at this point in time,
there is a perception that, um,

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uh,

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because Republicans have
been very responsible with
budgeting over the course of

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the last number of years,
um, there is a, uh,

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there is a push against raising any
types of taxes other than a couple,

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including the regional Greenhouse gas
initiative, which is essentially a tax.

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Um, but because of the
rainy day funds, and, uh,

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that's where the, uh, Democrats are going
to want to take money from first, uh,

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I don't believe that, that they
will die on the hill of raising,

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uh, a severance tax or
something of that nature. Um,

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and we will be fighting tooth and nail
against that in any other type of tax

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increase and taking money out
of the rainy day fund, uh,

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which is not for times like we're in now,

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but it's for when we do end up in
some sort of recession because of

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Democrats for policy at the federal level.

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Sure. Now, uh, you know, we're,

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we're talking about the jobs of the
gas and oil industry can bring us,

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but I also want to get your
take on the importance of energy

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independence. And we're seeing
with the conflict between, uh,

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Russia and the Ukraine, that when
we're going to the grocery store,

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because that's kind of the
bread basket of the world,

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that we're paying higher prices on
things like, uh, wheat and flour.

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Um, you know, how important
is it to us as Americans,

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as Pennsylvanians to, uh, to
have some energy independence?

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And do we have the reserves
in Pennsylvania, uh,

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to really make a big
difference, uh, in that and,

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and give us the security that energy
independence, uh, would bring us.

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We 100% have the reserves in
Pennsylvania to do it for the next 50 to

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70 years, and probably more than that.

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We just don't know how to measure
the rest of the reserves. Uh,

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and in my mind, it's not
about energy independence.

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I think we need to take it a step
further and go towards energy dominance

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so that our allies and places
like Germany aren't handcuffed by

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petty tyrants like Vladimir Putin. Uh,

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his war machine is funded
the nonsense coming from the

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left and because of their energy
policies, that is a fact. The,

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the fact of the matter is Europe has
been hamstrung by the Russian energy

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industry because of the green, uh,

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energy industrial complex that we
have seen both in Europe and in,

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uh, in United States.
At the end of the day,

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we could produce it, we could ship
it, and we could get it to Europe,

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and we could do it in a way that is
very effective and very clean as well

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for our environment. Uh, I
think it needs to be said that,

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that we see what's happening
in places like Russia when

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energy is when, um,

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our allies are dependent
on countries like Russia.

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We're doing the same thing.

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Our energy policy here is driving
us towards Chinese produced energy.

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Uh, we don't need to call it solar.
We don't need to call it wind.

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We don't need to call it electric
batteries. Let's call it what it is.

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It's Chinese produced energy. And until
we can do it here in the United States,

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we shouldn't be going
anywhere near it. Uh,

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we should be encouraging manufacturers
to start making those goods here.

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We should be encouraging our, um,

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entities in America to start mining for
rare earth minerals. But until we can,

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there's no reason for us to be
dependent on Chinese produced energy.

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And I think we ought to be using American
produced energy, not just for us,

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but also for our allies,

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so that we can be the ones
that they are dependent on,

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because we will export freedom and
not tyranny like what you're seeing in

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Russia.

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Sure, sure. So, you know, we've been
talking, uh, about the energy, uh,

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independence or energy dominance, as you
said. And, uh, if I'm, if I'm correct,

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uh, the Pennsylvania Shell
ethanol cracker plant, uh,

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is in your district. Um,

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let's talk a little bit about the
sheer number of jobs that have been

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created, uh, by that plant and, uh,

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and what they'll be doing
at that plant long term.

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Yeah, so in the construction of a plant,
there was a total of 14,000 trade jobs,

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uh, with an average, uh,

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income yearly of over a hundred
thousand dollars. Um, uh,

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beaver County in the last 10 years went
from having four hotels to 31 hotels

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because of the plant. Uh,

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the economic impact surrounding the
plant has been absolutely dramatic.

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80% of the workers at the plant
live within a hundred miles

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of the plant. So it was local work
for the most, uh, most part. And,

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um,

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we are generally seeing
a lot of excitement about
the prospect of downstream

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meaning, uh, because, uh,

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this plant is something
that is, is really a,

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a massive project.

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It provides for opportunities for
other manufacturers to come in and

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use the pellets that's
created by this plant, uh,

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to form their own plastic products. Um,

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so there's a lot of excitement
about future, uh, manufacturing,

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about re industrializing,
uh, beaver County.

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And even without that
mission of something like

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2.3 billion a year in economic impact, um,

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it's 600 full-time jobs.

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It's thousands of contractors that are
gonna work at the plant throughout the

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year. Um, it's just a, a
boon for the region. And, uh,

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we're excited to see what else the
energy industry can, can bring to,

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uh, our region as it relates to
manufacturing and production.

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So it's, it's been a very, uh,

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productive project,

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a 10 billion project that was
ultimately invested by Shell

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and this plant, in case, you know,
it's, it's kind of a complicated, uh,

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truck have.

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And what it does
essentially is take snack,

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um, which is going to be spent in the
region, which is going to keep people,

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uh, working in the natural
gas industry here locally, um,

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and converts it for lack
of a better, you know,

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it's just to try and make it in terms
that I can understand it in basically,

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but converts it to little
plastic pellets. Now,

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those pellets and ship the
different plastic manufacturers

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get melted and formed into
anything that's made of plastic,

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whether it's a plastic bag, whether
it's your cell phone cover, um,

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whatever it is, uh,

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that plastic is coming from this
plant or a plant like it, um,

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across the globe. There's a lot of
these types of plants in, uh, Asia.

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Uh, this one is the first one that
was built in northeast, uh, America.

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There's some in, uh, the
Louisiana region as well.

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There was one of these plants that
was completed in 2012 in Louisiana,

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and since then,

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there's been $154 billion
of future investment around

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that plan. So we're hoping that not just
Beaver County, but the whole region,

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bay County, Westmoreland County,
uh, green County, Washington County,

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Allegheny County Butler,

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that we can all see the benefits from
this type of project that we have here

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in Beaver County.

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And what's good for one of the caller
counties for one of the southwest

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Pennsylvania County, if
it's good for all of us.

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Absolutely. It, it kind of
makes me want to go out and,

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and buy an extrusion machine where, uh,

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where I could start
manufacturing some plastic goods.

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I I actually recently toured, um,

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a facility that our Society
of Brethren here in the, uh,

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the Laurel Highlands Mountains,
uh, has, and their community,

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uh, operates. And, and they
make plastic goods that are for,

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um, for rehab centers at
plastic potty chairs, et cetera,

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that are used for, for those
in the aging community. Uh,

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and so those petrochemical pellets that
you're talking about would be used,

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uh, in, in their machines. Um, and,

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and so right here in Fayette County,

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I know of at least one manufacturer
that's already using those materials

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and could probably cut
costs by bringing them, um,

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from the plant here in Butler,
uh, right down to Fayette County.

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Yeah. And so, one of,

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one of the reasons why show invested
here was because of the activity already

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and the close proximity to many of the
manufacturers that are in place. Uh,

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we're close to the northeast,
we're close to the Midwest,

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we can get down to
Mississippi if we need to. Uh,

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a lot of opportunity that's gonna
come from Miss Petrochemical.

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Representative Carol, we have to get to
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My guest today is representative Josh Ka,

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who is the chairman of the re
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And he's been traveling the state.
In fact, today, I think he's, uh,

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making his way across the commonwealth.
Uh, he's got important hearings,

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uh, that the, the committee has, uh, to
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uh, one of the things they've talked
about recently has been education.

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So Representative Cal, fill us in on, uh,

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what you've learned from your policy
hearings on education recently.

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Yeah, so I, I recently met with an
administrator of a school, uh, uh,

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in a community that is not
well off in Philadelphia,

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and he was explaining to me,

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and this kind of frames where
we're coming from on education.

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He was explaining to me that they
did a survey in one of their classes,

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I believe it was a seventh grade class,
uh, asking the kids what'd they expect,

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their life expectancy to be just a,
you know, survey amongst the students.

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And the average age that
came from that survey was 26,

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was 26 years old. Um.

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That's amazing.

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It, it, it's, it's absolutely
just really, it's terrible,

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but it is amazing that that's, that's
what it is. And when I heard that,

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I just thought to myself,
what, what are we doing?

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How can we provide hope for these kids?

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How can we let them know that the
state legislator is trying to make

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their lives better? It's trying to make
their families' lives better. And, um,

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one of the things that we have to
be razor focused on is providing

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hope for kids regardless of their zip
code, providing hope for families,

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uh, regardless of where they live.

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And the way that we can do that is by
empowering parents to have a choice in

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the education process. We, we had just
had a hearing last week on this subject,

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and, um, it was a astounding
how, uh, you know,

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areas and certain schools and certain
private schools, charter schools,

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whatever the situation is,

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how every child is different
and every family is different.

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And how the best way,

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even for our public schools to
operate is to have competition.

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There's nothing wrong with competition.

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There are public schools that are
absolutely phenomenal, that are excellent,

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and that's great, and we want
every public school to be that way.

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And I believe the way we get there is
by giving parents options and ensuring

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that there's some level of
accountability through competition,

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and ensuring that parents are in
charge of the direction of where their,

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where their, uh, kids are going,
what they're learning, and, uh, not,

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not systems. So I'm excited about
having more hearings on this subject.

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I think it's something
that, uh, is generally, um,

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appreciated by the, by
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I think we need to keep talking
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legislation that can really
ensure that every student,

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every family has hope
regardless of their zip code.

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Well, and you made a great
distinction there, uh, that,

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that I wanna follow up on. Um, and,
and I also want you to talk about your,

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your family size here in a moment.
But, you know, you mentioned that, uh,

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that parents know what's
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and I completely agree with that.

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I think most of our listeners
would agree with that as well.

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But you also said that, uh, every, uh,

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family is different and every child
is different. Uh, during the pandemic,

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we made the decision to cyber charter, uh,

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my two sons and I have one son
that has some special needs, and,

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uh,

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and he is really excelling with the
help that he's getting through a cyber

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charter opportunity. My
other son, uh, however,

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is not quite as challenged in the, uh,

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cyber charter environment because he's
not in a classroom where he's, uh,

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competing with other kids. And so I
think the distinction that needs made is,

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is really education. It,
it's not one size fits all.

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It fits every student
differently. Um, you know, I,

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I'm thinking that one of my kids will,

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will go to a bricks and mortar next
school, that school next year. And,

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uh, and the other one we're,
we're undecided about right
now because he is, uh,

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really improving and excelling
in a cyber charter environment.

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So it's not just that, you know, each
family situation may be different,

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but each child can be different
as well. Um, and you know,

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since we're on the topic of
of children, uh, you know,

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my listeners in Fayette
County may not have the, uh,

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awareness of the size of your family.
So, you know, why don't you tell us, uh,

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tell us how many kids y you and
your your beautiful wife have.

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So, yeah, my wife and I
have eight children. We just
had our eighth child. Um,

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we, our oldest is 12, our
youngest is two months. And, um,

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you, you're absolutely right. Uh, you
know, we got six in between those two,

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and every single one of
them is different. Um,

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one of them learns differently
and what learns a different, uh,

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race and needs different things in
order to excel, and, and that's great,

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and that's how God made 'em.
And we shouldn't try and
fit them all into one box.

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Um, you know, if, if,
if, like for your family,

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if cyber charter works
best, that's phenomenal.

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If another one public school is
best traditional public school,

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that's great too. Um,

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but we cannot just try this cookie
cutter system that we have and try

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stuffing our children into each one as
though they're a brick just to put into a

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wall. Uh, our kids are unique. Our kids
have talents that need to be developed,

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and those development,

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those talents are developed differently
for each and every one. Um, it,

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it's not an attack.

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Like a lot of people try and make
this into an attack on teachers,

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an attack on the public school
system. It really isn't.

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What this is about is about ex
excellent education regardless

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of zip code. There are a lot of people
in my district that have the ability,

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the resources to send their
kids to a wonderful school. Uh,

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we have some very good school
districts, black Hawk Beaver, um,

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in, in, in my district,
uh, and, and those places,

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I'm very happy to see how well they're
doing, uh, and other places too.

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And so it's not about that.

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It's simply about ensuring that
no child is left behind in this

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process.

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Ensuring and recognizing that each
child is unique and their needs are

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going to be unique, and
we ought to respect that,

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and we ought to have a system
that understands that. Matt,

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one of the saddest things
I hear every year is, uh,

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Democrats railing against,
um, our education system.

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They rail against it, and
they complain about it.

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And the only answer they can ever
come up with is to pad the status quo.

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They keep saying, we need
more of the status quo,

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we need more of the status quo.

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Just keep throwing more money at
the system that they call broken.

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They call it broken. Matt Bradford,
the former appropriation chair,

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who is now the leader of the Democrat
Party in the house last cycle in his

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appropriation speech, said,
our education system is broken.

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His answer to fixing it, which is
throw more money at it, I'm sorry,

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that's not how we do
this. We are legislators.

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We ought to use our brains to come
up with creative solutions to remove

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obstacles to opportunity.

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And we ought to close the opportunity
gap that we see in this Commonwealth.

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And it shouldn't matter what zip code
you're in. If your child, uh, wants,

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and a family wants to have that
child get an excellent education,

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they ought to be able to do it.

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And that's what our policies are
going to lead to in the Commonwealth.

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And that's what the Republican
caucus is leading on right now in the

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Commonwealth.

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Well,

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and I think now is an opportune
time to evaluate education and,

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uh, how we have to fund
education. I don't know if, uh,

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if all of our listeners are
aware, but the, the, uh,

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Pennsylvania Supreme Court had
a ruling that came down, uh,

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based on educational funding. And,

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and in this year's budget
process, uh, if I'm correct,

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you guys are gonna have to make a
change in how we fund our public

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schools across the commonwealth.

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I don't know if you have
anything to add to that, but, uh,

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but I know that is an issue that's, uh,

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that's gonna come to an head to
a head in this year's budget.

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Yeah, so I mean, this
is an opportunity, uh,

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we gotta look at it as an opportunity.
This, this, the Commonwealth Court,

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not the state Supreme Court, uh,

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actually left room for the
legislature to fix the problem,

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which is appropriate because the court
has no ability to appropriate funds,

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um, which calls them to question
what they did in the first place.

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But the court will be the court,

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and we gotta look at it as an opportunity
to ensure that money is following the

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child. And at every child,
regardless of zip code,

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has the opportunity for an
excellent education. Um,

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so we gotta take a look at
the funding formula. Uh,

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we have to ensure that our rural
schools are appropriately funded.

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That is a serious concern that I have. Uh,

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coming from a rural district myself,

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I represent 12 different school districts,

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which is in the context of,
uh, of, uh, state House seats,

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which is remarkable. Um, and so
we, we need to make sure that our,

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our smaller schools are not left behind
in this process. Uh, but ultimately,

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as a philosophy, as a North star,
as a, as a guide for our caucus,

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we are razor focused on
ensuring that children,

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that children get an excellent
education regardless of their zip code

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00:28:52,870 --> 00:28:55,000
from Bucks County, the Beaver County,

449
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:59,160
from Philadelphia to Eerie
and everywhere in between.

450
00:28:59,670 --> 00:29:04,600
That's our focus. And it's not on
systems and padding the status quo,

451
00:29:05,150 --> 00:29:08,720
it's on funding children
and giving families choices.

452
00:29:08,780 --> 00:29:13,120
And this is an opportunity for us to
put in a system that does exactly that.

453
00:29:13,980 --> 00:29:16,600
And if we're talking about
money following the child,

454
00:29:16,850 --> 00:29:21,640
is there any chance that we could be
talking about some type of a voucher

455
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,480
system in Pennsylvania at this time?

456
00:29:24,370 --> 00:29:28,880
So, I, I, I don't think it's
realistic to expect, um,

457
00:29:28,900 --> 00:29:33,680
the Democrat Caucus to go for
something of that nature. Uh,

458
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:38,440
we will be advocating for it, uh, in
particular in poor performing schools.

459
00:29:38,970 --> 00:29:42,040
Uh, it's my opinion that
we should broaden that, uh,

460
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:46,000
beyond just poor performing schools.
But we gotta start somewhere. However,

461
00:29:46,300 --> 00:29:50,360
the governor, uh, governor
Shapiro in his campaign, now,

462
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,000
I understand that, you know,
with a lot of politicians,

463
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:57,080
what they say in their campaign is one
thing, what they do is another. Uh,

464
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,560
so I'm not naive to that,
but with that being said,

465
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:05,920
governor Shapiro has come out and said
he supports vouchers, particularly with,

466
00:30:06,250 --> 00:30:11,120
uh, poor, um, with poor
performing school districts. Um,

467
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,480
and we ought to, we ought to believe him,
and we ought to put something forward,

468
00:30:15,010 --> 00:30:19,560
uh, that does that. Because if it's just
for poor performing school districts,

469
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,160
that's a step in the right direction.

470
00:30:21,460 --> 00:30:26,280
And if we can show that it works
for those families, um, I, I,

471
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:30,040
I don't see why it couldn't work for other
families and why we should have other

472
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:34,440
people. I'm not getting the same
types of opportunities. So, uh,

473
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:39,160
we will be driving that agenda. We
will be trying to, uh, incrementally,

474
00:30:39,690 --> 00:30:44,520
uh, make our education system
better, uh, and continue to,

475
00:30:44,530 --> 00:30:49,440
to debate in the public square as to
why we should be funding children and

476
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,200
families and not systems.

477
00:30:52,260 --> 00:30:57,040
And, and, you know, I, I think what
we have to talk about also, and,

478
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,800
you know, not to be extremely
partisan, because on the show,

479
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:04,080
I try to be as bipartisan as
I can be, but there's no, uh,

480
00:31:04,730 --> 00:31:09,440
no covering up the fact that when I was
in the legislator legislature, I was,

481
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,960
uh, uh, an extreme conservatism
in, in the top 10%. Um,

482
00:31:14,100 --> 00:31:18,120
but with that being said, um, you
kind of have to follow the money. And,

483
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:22,880
and what worries me when we talk
about education is the donations

484
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,440
that come from, uh, the psea
from the teacher's union,

485
00:31:26,980 --> 00:31:31,680
and what candidates those go to
and ultimately does that cloud,

486
00:31:31,970 --> 00:31:35,360
uh, some people's judgment, um, you know,

487
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:39,280
when they're moving through the
process. That being said, um, you know,

488
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:44,080
I went to a public high school. I went
to, uh, Catholic school before that. But,

489
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,560
you know, in my public
high school experience,

490
00:31:46,630 --> 00:31:51,440
I have teachers that definitely shaped
me into the individual that I am

491
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,000
today, and, and gave me some, um,

492
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,600
extremely good life lessons through
the education that I received.

493
00:31:58,890 --> 00:32:03,800
So this isn't a knock on teachers,
but just the money that is,

494
00:32:04,450 --> 00:32:08,360
uh, you know, passed on through
that teacher's union, uh,

495
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:12,240
what kind of stumbling blocks do
you think that that may provide, uh,

496
00:32:12,250 --> 00:32:13,800
as we discuss education?

497
00:32:14,390 --> 00:32:18,280
Yeah, that's certainly an issue.
And, and those, you know, teachers,

498
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,160
the Psea and all these other
groups, they're, you know,

499
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:25,640
free to give where they want. Um,
and it's certainly a problem, uh,

500
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,560
because of the resources
that they do have. But I,

501
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,960
I will say that the bigger
challenge here is, um,

502
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,880
going after the status quo.

503
00:32:36,340 --> 00:32:39,840
Any time that you are disruption
to the, the status quo,

504
00:32:39,990 --> 00:32:42,520
you're going to have
a target on your back.

505
00:32:42,620 --> 00:32:47,480
And the education system is one of
the largest institutions that we deal

506
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:48,760
with in the legislature,

507
00:32:49,180 --> 00:32:54,120
and we are squarely attacking the
status quo because the status quo is not

508
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,400
working for enough families. Um,

509
00:32:56,420 --> 00:32:59,160
and so we're going to continue to do that.

510
00:32:59,420 --> 00:33:03,000
And the more of this that
becomes a public debate,

511
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,840
having radio interviews like this,

512
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,800
talking to you and others in
the public forum on this topic,

513
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:13,680
the better off we'll be at. Um, we
have the truth on our side with this.

514
00:33:14,010 --> 00:33:16,440
Uh, we have the family
on our side with this.

515
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:21,320
We have students that we are
advocating for, uh, with this, um,

516
00:33:21,380 --> 00:33:21,800
and,

517
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:26,680
and unfortunately more so than
the unfortunate nature of the

518
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,360
psca and who they donate
to. Unfortunately,

519
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:34,080
the Democrat party has zero creativity.
And it's not just with education,

520
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,920
their entire platform across the board,

521
00:33:37,070 --> 00:33:41,240
it's padding the status quo.
How do they solve problems?

522
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:42,440
Throw more money at it,

523
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,080
because they don't want to use
their brains to solve problems.

524
00:33:45,190 --> 00:33:48,280
They just want to be able to
throw more money at stakeholders,

525
00:33:48,370 --> 00:33:51,000
at people that fund their campaigns. And,

526
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,600
and that's the only solutions
they come up with. Anything.

527
00:33:53,890 --> 00:33:58,760
We have an energy issue, throw more
money at the green industry. Uh,

528
00:33:58,810 --> 00:34:03,720
we have a healthcare issue, throw
more money at, uh, at different,

529
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:08,200
at the S C I U and different groups like
that. Uh, we have an education problem,

530
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,520
just throw more money at it, I'm sorry,

531
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:14,080
but taking taxpayer
dollars and just being, uh,

532
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,000
throwing it out without
any type of accountability,

533
00:34:17,310 --> 00:34:19,120
that's not a winning solution.

534
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,600
Padding the status quo is
not a winning solution.

535
00:34:22,980 --> 00:34:26,360
Republicans have ideas,
ideas that'll work.

536
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,960
We have solutions beyond just
throwing more money at it.

537
00:34:30,060 --> 00:34:31,560
And that's what we're working on,

538
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,480
and we're removing those
obstacles to opportunity. And, um,

539
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,320
the Democrat party has
gotten lazy and, uh,

540
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,080
it might use fluffy words in her campaign,

541
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,760
like the Office of Transformation and
Opportunity and all this other nonsense.

542
00:34:44,980 --> 00:34:46,280
But at the end of the day,

543
00:34:46,590 --> 00:34:51,360
alls we're doing is padding the status
quo and the status quo is not working

544
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,760
for far too many people
in this commonwealth.

545
00:34:55,750 --> 00:34:59,240
Well, uh, you know, thank you
Representative Kell for those thoughts.

546
00:34:59,240 --> 00:35:01,640
We have to get one more
break in. When we come back,

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00:39:03,780 --> 00:39:08,420
alongside our guest today,
representative Josh Kale, uh,

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representative Kale. Uh, you know,

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we just have a couple minutes left in
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613
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final thoughts. I know we talked a lot
about energy, we talked about education.

614
00:39:18,130 --> 00:39:19,980
I don't know if you have any, uh,

615
00:39:20,180 --> 00:39:23,980
other bullet points on your legislative
agenda that you wanna share with us

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00:39:23,980 --> 00:39:28,820
today. And then also, you know, if
someone has thoughts or concerns, uh,

617
00:39:28,820 --> 00:39:30,940
about some of the issues
you were talking about,

618
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:35,700
how can they get that message to you
or other members of the general, uh,

619
00:39:35,980 --> 00:39:36,813
assembly?

620
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,490
Yeah, so Matt, I I really
appreciate you having me on and,

621
00:39:40,490 --> 00:39:42,210
and you are missed the legislature.

622
00:39:42,210 --> 00:39:46,610
You are a leader on energy and education
issues and, and many, many more.

623
00:39:47,020 --> 00:39:50,650
Uh, charity is doing a wonderful
job. Charity Krupa, uh,

624
00:39:50,650 --> 00:39:54,330
who is a representative in that area,
and I'm looking forward to excited to,

625
00:39:54,330 --> 00:39:58,010
to work with her. And she is
learning very quickly. Uh,

626
00:39:58,010 --> 00:40:01,290
but your leadership is
certainly missed. Um, you know,

627
00:40:01,720 --> 00:40:04,530
energy education, uh,

628
00:40:04,530 --> 00:40:08,410
these are the bread and butter
issues that we are working on. Uh,

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00:40:08,410 --> 00:40:12,210
these are the issues that,
uh, we believe are, are, uh,

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00:40:12,210 --> 00:40:16,970
necessary to find solutions for so
that we can get the most out of our

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00:40:16,970 --> 00:40:21,610
education system so that we can get
the most out of our resources. And, uh,

632
00:40:21,610 --> 00:40:25,370
there's other issues that we're dealing
with, uh, like regulatory reform,

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00:40:25,510 --> 00:40:29,450
tax cuts, um, and, and things
of that nature. And, uh,

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G O p.com. And, uh, again, Matt,

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I I really appreciate
you, you having me. Um,

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and I'll be happy to come
on the show anytime. Uh,

643
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you want to talk about issues, uh,
because that's what this is about.

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It's about finding solutions, uh,

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so that we can remove obstacles
so that Pennsylvania, uh,

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every Pennsylvanian can, can have
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a government that's excellent
and efficient, that works for us.

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00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,290
Well, I, I thank you so much for
making, uh, time in your busy schedule.

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I know you crisscrossed the
Commonwealth as policy chair, uh,

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making out to individuals, districts.
I would also encourage our listeners,

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if there's an issue that you really
think that state government needs

653
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to, um, delve into deeper and,

654
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and define answers to contact
your local state representative,

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ask them to get the policy committee to
consider having the hearing right there

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in your local district. I'm sure
Representative Kale would be happy to,

657
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to come out to the district and to
discuss those, uh, those problems. Um,

658
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,080
really that's where the
legislative agenda starts, is,

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00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:07,680
is with that policy committee where
they, uh, they listen and, uh,

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and get the feedback of our constituents
here in Pennsylvania because those

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00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:16,240
members of the State House
are, uh, are really, uh,

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servant leaders and, and
they need your help in, uh,

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in legislating and, uh, in making
Pennsylvania great again. Um,

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so I, I thank you for being on
the show, representative Kale,

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and look forward to talking
to you again in the future.

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