Episode 21 – Religion with Mary Sampey – Transcript

02Mar, 2023
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Starting now.

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Commonalities where guests find
common ground through uncommon

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conversations, politics,
religion, finances,

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all the topics your grandmother told
you not to discuss with friends.

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And now your host, Matthew Dowling,

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and today's guests on commonalities.

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Well, thanks for joining us
today on commonalities. I'm
your host, Matt Dowling,

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and I have a, uh, great guest
for you today. We always, uh,

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have the tagline on the show saying
that we talk about politics, religion,

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and finances,

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all the things your grandmother told
you not to talk about with friends.

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And my grandmother as a young adult, uh,

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used to caution me when I would start
a political conversation with friends,

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uh, not to talk about any
of those three subjects.

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Today's subject is going to be religion,

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and I have a guest that is, uh,

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joining us telephonically today
that many of you from Uniontown,

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or especially from Connorsville,
may know from her recent work, uh,

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although she's working, uh, a little
further out now. Mary Samy and Mary,

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are you there on the line?

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I'm here, Matt.

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Hey, Mary, thank you so much for joining
me. Just to kind of preface things,

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Mary and I, uh, friendship goes
back about 30 years as kids.

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We grew up <laugh>, uh, on the same, uh,

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two streets that were front and back
with an alley in between. And, uh,

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we rode bicycles up and down that short
alley, many, many a times. Yeah. So,

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Mary, why don't you, uh,

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why don't you give us a little bit
of a self introduction. Tell us, uh,

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what you do and who
you currently work for.

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Sure. First of all, thank you
so much for having me, Matt.

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Those were great times
in that neighborhood,

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and I often look back fondly
on them. Um, so many kids that,

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you know, had so much fun with.
So those were great times,

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great memories. Uh, but
my name is Mary Samy.

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Currently I'm the youth and
young adult minister at Christ,

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the Divine Shepherd for
the Diocese of Pittsburgh.

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And those parishes are located
in Monroeville and Penn Hills.

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But I am new to the Diocese of Pittsburgh.

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I am homegrown Uniontown
girl, as Matt said,

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and I grew up in Uniontown.
I went to St. John,

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the Evangelist Regional Catholic School,

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and I grew up as a Catholic.

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I've been Catholic my whole life since
I was three weeks old and baptized

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<laugh> at St. Anne's in Ross Traver.

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And I went to school for Catholic
Theology and Religious Education.

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And I also went to Franciscan to get
my master's in Catholic theology.

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And I've been in full-time ministry,

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and that's been everything from pastoral
ministry to Director of Faith Formation

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Evangelization,

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and currently youth and young adult
minister for the last 13 years.

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So, Mary,

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one of the reasons I wanted to have you
on is because I was was very excited to

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read on Facebook and on
social media that you will be,

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uh,

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co-hosting a new podcast that's
gonna be starting here very

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soon. Um, why don't you tell us a
little bit about that project and, uh,

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and what people can expect if
the, uh, decide to tune in.

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And also where can they
they find this new podcast?

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Absolutely. So this is something that
I've been wanting to do for a while.

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I talk about my faith
a lot on social media.

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I think that it's really
important for people to,

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not only Catholics but Christians,

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people of faith to realize that
there are every single day people who

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struggle, who thin, who need God.

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And just because I work for the church
doesn't mean that I need God any less

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<laugh>.

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So a lot of times I feel like I am
almost that voice for those on the

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outside, um, that they can
reach out to. A lot of times,

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especially in the Catholic faith,

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sometimes people feel uncomfortable
reaching out to a priest at first.

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And so I try to be that
listening ear for people.

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So I've been talking about religion
for a long time in the public sphere,

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and I'm not afraid to talk
about it. People know that
I'm a woman of deep faith,

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and thankfully, most
people respect that fact.

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And you can believe that
if I walk into a room,

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we're probably going to talk about
religion <laugh> at some point in that

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conversation. If I'm meeting you,

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and I've been wanting to do
a podcast for a long time,

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but I thought it was really important
to have the perspective as well,

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not only as a layperson in the
church, but from our priests as well.

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So, um, there's a
perspective for everyone.

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There's a perspective on what the
Catholic Church says, teaches,

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believes as the apostolic authority
of the church through our priests,

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but also as a perspective of a
layperson as someone who's married has

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kids, who is a woman in the
Catholic church in leadership.

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So it's going to be, we're gonna be
talking about all the Catholic things,

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but also about Christianity in
general and what we are called to as

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Christians,

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particularly who we are called
to be as missionary disciples,

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and what we are supposed to be doing
in the culture that we live in,

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in order to effectively be the
disciples that were made to be.

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And your new podcast, if I'm correct,
is titled From Sheep to Shepherd.

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And, uh, yes. And I think some
of the, the items that, uh,

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that you just mentioned, uh,
make that a, a, a great, uh,

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a great theme or a great title for your
podcast. Now, in the first episode,

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you're gonna be talking, uh,

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about the woman at the well
mm-hmm. <affirmative> and, uh,

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sharing some of your, as you said, some
of your personal faith journey as well.

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Why don't you give us a
little glimpse into, uh,

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what you'll be talking about or what you
talk about with the woman at the well?

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Sure.

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Sure. So the first podcast is going
to be on Monday, March the sixth,

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with which also happens to be my
birthday. So I was really excited.

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I was going to get to share my
personal faith story that day.

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It's going to be live on
Facebook, on the Christ,

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the Divine Shepherd Facebook
page, and on our YouTube channel,

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and it will also be available on Spotify.

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And so that first episode, we, I wanted
to entitle it the woman at the well,

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because I used to write a lot of articles,

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and I usually would call
myself the woman at the well.

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And if you're familiar with that
story, which I know you are, Matt,

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the woman at the Wells,

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a story of a woman who did
not have God in her life.

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She had been living in
a way that was not, um,

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according to God's law. And
in this moment or in her life,

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she meets Jesus. And
she's a Samaritan woman,

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which means she is supposedly an,
an enemy of the Jewish culture.

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So Jesus should not have been
conversing with her at all. Number one,

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men would not usually converse with
women one-on-one, that was a no-no,

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unless you were married.

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And he also meets this woman
who is his enemy at this well,

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and he meets her where she
is. He doesn't judge her.

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He, and he seeks her out.

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And through this conversation,

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she comes to realize that this
Jesus is someone who can give her

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every single thing that
she's always wanted.

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And I relate to that so much
because growing up in the church,

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I went to church just like you,
Matt. I was involved in youth group.

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We would go every Sunday there.
It was a non-negotiable <laugh>.

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And I knew a lot about the
faith because I went to

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Catholic school,

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but I didn't necessarily
have relationship with Jesus.

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And I didn't realize that Jesus wanted
to have a love relationship with me,

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and I didn't even think Jesus would
want to have a relationship with me,

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or why would he care, um,

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with some of these things that I dealt
with. And, you know, as a young person,

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we all struggle. We all go through
things. And I was that young person.

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I was the typical college kid who
liked to have fun, liked to party,

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liked to get into things,
and I was not happy.

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And in this brokenness and
in this sinful sinfulness,

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thankfully, I had an
encounter with Christ,

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with the Jesus that basically
said like, I love you,

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regardless of what's
going on unconditionally.

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And because of that encounter,

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I was able to live my life
for him in a way that I

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think hopefully would be pleasing to
him, or at least I try to every day.

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Obviously, we all struggle with that
and, and need him constantly. Um,

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but it was that encounter at the well
where he just met me wherever I was and

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just said, I love you. Aren't you
exhausted of living this way? Like,

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let me be that living water for
your life and give you that joy

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everlasting. So that's what it's gonna
be about. It's gonna be about, um,

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encounter with Jesus.

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And, uh, people can look
for that March 6th, 2023.

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That'll be live at 10:00
AM again on the Christ,

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the Divine Shepherd Parish Facebook
page and YouTube channel. Mary,

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uh, I do have more questions for you,

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There's nothing quite like the feeling
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those fall Friday nights under the
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watching our red Raiders, those refreshing
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rooting on our Red Raider,
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I am grateful for those memories and
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grandchildren can enjoy those
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Well, thank you for sticking with
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and my guest today is Mary
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uh, where she will be,
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parish in the Diocese of
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before we get too far into, um,

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I want to take a moment to, uh, invite
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um, that my wife Rebecca and
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it is the the first annual
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and, uh, it's gonna be
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March 25th from 11:00 AM
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we will be at the Uniontown Senior
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making Pierogis to feed
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that week following that are at the
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Fair Chance Bull Skin, the Mountain
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uh, back, uh, my wife and I, uh, with
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the healthcare workers that were
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at that point in time, I think we
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our goal is to produce a
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matthew d dowling.com. So
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backgrounds and, uh mm-hmm. <affirmative>,
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uh, that you were a student at Franciscan
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uh, during my undergrad, so
mm-hmm. <affirmative>, so
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you and I both grew up, uh, Catholic.
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what would we would refer to as
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exposure to other faith backgrounds and
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uh, worshiping and celebrating with,
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and Baptist mm-hmm. <affirmative> and
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give you a chance to kind of expand
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especially if you eat Pierogis on Friday,
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you can't throw a stone without hitting
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how are Catholics called
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brothers and sisters in Christ who
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you know, we're right and, and,
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we wanna be defensive about, um, you know,

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the accusations that are
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we have statues in our churches, or we
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you know, may have friends of other
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how can we still share our
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Great question. I'm so glad you wanna
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number one, we live in a world that
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<laugh> in our culture. And so, to me,

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the fact that Christians are
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arguing with each other is
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because we need to be united
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Um, there's just, there's
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we should be spending time
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unite us. And there are misconceptions
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they're of that generation where they
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you are not gonna be in heaven.

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you have misconceptions in the Protestant
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really Christian, or that we believe
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husband, who grew up in the Protestant
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Christian service at the church
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in non-denominational church. And
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through my life, that I did in fact
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that he rose again, and that
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I have a relationship with him. And
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started breaking down a lot of
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you know, don't not
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because a lot of times we just don't
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awkward. We should be concentrating
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not the things that separate us.
So, for a long time in my marriage,

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for the first 10 years, my husband
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number one, we believe in God,
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and we believe in the Holy Spirit, and
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and that we wanna follow Christ,

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those other things that separate us. Yes,

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they do divide us in certain ways.
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However, once you have a solid
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you're both we're playing on the same
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how can we work together?

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And how can we get to understand
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the more my husband

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experienced the Catholic
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we do not worship Mary. We do not wor,
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He asked me one time, why do you pray
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well, you ask me to pray for you
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of course I do. I said, well, Mary
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So it's the exact same thing.
I'm asking her to pray for me.

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I don't think she can do anything
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she doesn't have any power
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once I started explaining it
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it led to a lot of really
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and I will tell you now,
my husband is a Catholic.

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He converted to the Catholic
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and you know, still to this day,

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we have many close friends who
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I have many close friends who
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that they just see the love of God
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I think just being an effective witness
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people are gonna notice something's
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and they're gonna be attracted to it.

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You know? And,

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and that reminds me of the quote
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Francis of Assisi Speak the Gospel at
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you know, exactly. When we
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I pulled up on my laptop, um, the
Webster's Dictionary, and as, uh,

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someone who studied theology, uh, you
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that Catholic means universal and
Yeah. Um, that's why some of our,

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uh, non, uh, big Sea Catholic, uh,

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brothers and sisters in Christ
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that uses the word Catholic in it.
Yeah. But what I was interested in was,

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uh, the second de definition
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as an adjective is, um,
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or interest mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And
then it gives a, a sentence that says,

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she is Catholic in her taste of music.

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And, uh, that interesting,
that was interesting to me
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really, it, it doesn't have to, you know,

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just describe a faith
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but it, it really means, um, universal,
broaden those sympathies Yeah.

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Tastes or interests. Mary, we have
to get, I don't wanna cut you off,

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so I'm gonna give you a second to finish,

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but we do have to get to one more break,

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Hello, Uniontown Mayor, bill Gerkey. Here.

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There's nothing quite like the feeling
of home, that sense of belonging,

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those fall Friday nights under the
lights, those winter nights in the gym,

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watching our red Raiders, those refreshing
spring afternoons at Bailey Park,

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rooting on our Red Raider,
softball and baseball teams.

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I am grateful for those memories and
hope our community's children and

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grandchildren can enjoy those
memories too. But to do that,

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we have to plan for the future.
During my first term in office,

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the city has got Bailey Park back
to a place where we can be proud of

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our city's first comprehensive
plan. In over 20 years,

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started work on the city's
section of the Sheep Skin Trail,

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worked on eliminating blighted
properties and are rebuilding the city's

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neighborhoods. We've updated the faulty
equipment in the parking garages,

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competitive, reliable, faster,

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and less expensive internet
service to our city residents.

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We have done a lot, but there's
still more to do. So, I Bill Gerkey.

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I'm running for a second term. We're
Uniontown proud, we're Uniontown strong,

456
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Uncommon Conversations.

477
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Well, thanks for sticking with
us. I'm your host Matt Dowling,

478
00:30:48,310 --> 00:30:52,510
and my guest today is Mary
Samy. Mary works at, uh,

479
00:30:52,510 --> 00:30:56,310
Christ the Divine Shepherd Parish
in the diocese of Pittsburgh.

480
00:30:56,510 --> 00:31:00,750
She's been working in youth
and young adult ministry, uh,

481
00:31:00,750 --> 00:31:05,150
for quite some time. Many of you from
Connellsville may know her from your work,

482
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:10,030
uh, or for her from her work out there.
Uh, and she's a union town native. Uh,

483
00:31:10,030 --> 00:31:12,150
and like I said, at the top of the show,

484
00:31:12,290 --> 00:31:15,950
her and I have known each other
probably for 30 plus years, and, uh,

485
00:31:15,950 --> 00:31:20,590
and have remained friends. So, uh,
much credit to her on that part, uh,

486
00:31:20,590 --> 00:31:25,190
cuz she's put up with me for that
log. You know, uh, Mary, I I,

487
00:31:25,660 --> 00:31:28,670
I find it hard to have a show, uh,

488
00:31:28,980 --> 00:31:33,710
regardless of what topic that we're
on, where I don't mention politics,

489
00:31:33,710 --> 00:31:36,670
because since the early two thousands
mm-hmm. <affirmative> <laugh>, Uh,

490
00:31:36,670 --> 00:31:41,470
I've either been on the sideline or
directly involved in politics, uh,

491
00:31:41,470 --> 00:31:46,190
for, for Yeah. You know, in one
way or another. Uh, and I have a,

492
00:31:46,190 --> 00:31:50,390
a recent editorial that was run
in, uh, some of the local papers,

493
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:55,230
uh, that was titled Why We Must Work
Together on Common Goals. Mm-hmm.

494
00:31:55,270 --> 00:31:59,750
<affirmative>. And, uh, I really, I, I
don't know if you know Dolly Parton's,

495
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:04,350
uh, new song that she
released, um, where she in,

496
00:32:04,350 --> 00:32:09,310
in all of her Dolly Parton sass
<laugh>, um, you know, talks about,

497
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,830
um, why we should, uh, be faithful,

498
00:32:13,430 --> 00:32:16,270
faithful individuals in
our everyday life. Um,

499
00:32:16,270 --> 00:32:20,870
but the question that I have for
you is one that, that I address in,

500
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,190
uh, in that piece that
ran, and that is, you know,

501
00:32:25,530 --> 00:32:29,630
how much should we as
American citizens, uh,

502
00:32:29,630 --> 00:32:32,350
expect our politicians to mm-hmm.

503
00:32:32,390 --> 00:32:36,030
<affirmative> talk about their faith
background or faith in general.

504
00:32:36,050 --> 00:32:38,990
And I have a statistic I
wanted to share, uh, and then,

505
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,680
then I'll turn it over to you for
your opinion. But in the past decade,

506
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,840
more Americans said,
political leaders, uh,

507
00:32:45,970 --> 00:32:48,920
express religious faith too little.

508
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:53,040
That was 37% rather than too much at

509
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:58,000
29%. And that was according to the Pew
Institute. So what's your opinion, Mary,

510
00:32:58,420 --> 00:33:02,960
are, you know, are are leaders
in government and in politics?

511
00:33:03,230 --> 00:33:07,440
Should they express their faith and
as voters, should we Absolutely.

512
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:08,480
Should we expect them to.

513
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,560
<Laugh>? I think absolutely. Um, I,

514
00:33:13,130 --> 00:33:16,520
we live in a quote unquote cancel culture,

515
00:33:16,740 --> 00:33:20,400
and I feel terrible that
people are terrified,

516
00:33:21,030 --> 00:33:24,400
absolutely terrified to
talk about their faith.

517
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,760
Whatever faith it is does not need
to be a Christian faith. You know,

518
00:33:29,050 --> 00:33:32,400
as human beings in general, we should,

519
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,360
because we're all created in the image
and likeness of God, we should love

520
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,200
everyone and seek to understand them.

521
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:44,920
And how can we understand them truly
if we don't even know what their faith

522
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:45,800
background is?

523
00:33:46,340 --> 00:33:51,240
And they're absolutely terrified to
talk about it because they're afraid of

524
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,480
being canceled. And what's
more, especially as a Christian,

525
00:33:55,050 --> 00:33:56,640
if you are given a platform,

526
00:33:56,860 --> 00:34:01,440
you are obligated to use that
for the good of the church.

527
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:06,280
It goes beyond your reputation, your
ego, your career, whatever you want.

528
00:34:06,410 --> 00:34:07,210
If,

529
00:34:07,210 --> 00:34:11,960
if God does not come first and
you are afraid to say His name

530
00:34:12,820 --> 00:34:15,840
out of fear of your
reputation or what, it's,

531
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,400
then I would not vote for that
person. That's just my opinion.

532
00:34:19,540 --> 00:34:22,560
And, and I, I would completely
agree with you. You know, I,

533
00:34:22,590 --> 00:34:26,720
I kind of believe that if we are
given any soapbox to stand on,

534
00:34:27,250 --> 00:34:31,520
um, mm-hmm. <affirmative>, that we have
to use our voice in, in positive ways,

535
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,320
and, and I think talking
about our faith, uh,

536
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,520
is one of the ways that
we can do that. Or,

537
00:34:36,610 --> 00:34:41,480
or just simple expressions of our faith,
um mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know, I,

538
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:46,360
I remember as, you know, someone
in my early twenties, uh,

539
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:51,280
thinking when I was out to a restaurant
that it would be odd to make the

540
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:55,920
sign of the cross as I silently
prayed before a meal. Um, you know,

541
00:34:55,950 --> 00:34:59,960
n now pushing 40 and not being, uh,

542
00:34:59,960 --> 00:35:03,520
I guess as young as I once
was, <laugh>, um, you know,

543
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,760
those things don't bother me quite the
same way. Right. But, um, you know,

544
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:12,400
but I think everyone's called
to, uh, to do what they can and,

545
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,080
and to speak the truth. Um, and,

546
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:19,600
and not only in your faith
background, but, um, you know, as,

547
00:35:19,650 --> 00:35:22,800
as you probably know, because
it's been widely covered as,

548
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,520
and as a lot of other people know,

549
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,280
and I've been trying to be transparent
about it. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>,

550
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,720
you know, during my time in office, I, uh,

551
00:35:29,910 --> 00:35:34,520
I developed an addiction with alcohol
and, uh mm-hmm. <affirmative>, and I was,

552
00:35:35,170 --> 00:35:39,480
um, not lucky to have had an, an
accident, but I had a, a minor accident.

553
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:44,480
No one was hurt. Uh, and I was
under the influence and, and, uh,

554
00:35:44,810 --> 00:35:47,560
decided to seek treatment
and, uh mm-hmm. <affirmative>.

555
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,640
And now it's been since June,
since I have, uh, I've, uh,

556
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,120
been on that road to
recovery. And I, you know,

557
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:59,760
I feel very called to share that
story and that message Yeah. With, uh,

558
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:04,320
with people because it's
not just, um, you know,

559
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,360
it's not just normal people
that have those problems,

560
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:11,040
politicians have them as well.
In fact, uh, you know, I,

561
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,120
I was just in the Connellsville
paper yesterday, uh,

562
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,560
piece I wrote about John
Federman, uh, Senator Federman,

563
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:21,640
and I would not ever agree
politically <laugh>, uh, in fact,

564
00:36:22,290 --> 00:36:26,600
uh, we battled it out while I was in the
State House and while he was Lieutenant

565
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:31,480
Governor mm-hmm. <affirmative>.
Um, but I, I see an extreme, uh,

566
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:36,840
strength in him. And I think he took a
courageous act to get the psychological,

567
00:36:37,250 --> 00:36:39,040
uh, you know, uh,

568
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:43,680
the psychological help that he needed
and the treatment that he needed. And,

569
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:48,120
and I just, I think that that's fantastic.
So I think we are calling to, uh,

570
00:36:48,370 --> 00:36:53,040
to speak the truth kind of, uh, at
all times no matter what it is. Right.

571
00:36:53,100 --> 00:36:57,160
You know, we only have a few minutes
left, Mary, but what I wanted to,

572
00:36:57,490 --> 00:37:01,240
to talk to you about, and,
and I know, um, you know,

573
00:37:01,240 --> 00:37:04,480
if we were having tea
this afternoon with, uh,

574
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:09,000
a bunch of Catholic ladies in their,
you know, late sixties, early seventies,

575
00:37:09,300 --> 00:37:14,120
one of the things that we'd probably hear
is that young people today just aren't

576
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:18,600
engaged in the faith like we
used to be. And, uh, you know, I,

577
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,800
I know you've probably heard
that around the dinner table,

578
00:37:20,820 --> 00:37:25,080
and truth be told Yes. Um, I, I
probably would agree with them.

579
00:37:25,490 --> 00:37:28,840
Um, yep. But, you know,
as people that, uh,

580
00:37:29,030 --> 00:37:33,680
that are the faithful working
in ministry, how do we, uh,

581
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,760
how do we engage those
young people mm-hmm.

582
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:40,000
<affirmative> that may not have
faith beliefs or a background. Right.

583
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,920
And that's what I wanna
close out the show with is,

584
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,640
is a conversation about how we get
our young people back in the pews.

585
00:37:46,550 --> 00:37:50,160
Yeah. So I have not, I have
been popular talking about this,

586
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:54,080
and I haven't been popular
talking about this because, um,

587
00:37:54,790 --> 00:37:58,400
it's looking at it from a little
bit of a different angle. Um, I am,

588
00:37:58,870 --> 00:38:03,720
I am not even 40 yet, and I have
been in ministry almost 15 years.

589
00:38:04,350 --> 00:38:08,520
I see people leaving the church. I don't
see a lot of young families like me.

590
00:38:09,140 --> 00:38:10,240
And, you know,

591
00:38:10,470 --> 00:38:15,280
I have been dedicated for the last
almost 15 years of my full-time ministry

592
00:38:15,290 --> 00:38:17,960
in being a missionary disciple.

593
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:22,360
And that means going outside
of your church building

594
00:38:22,620 --> 00:38:25,840
and being Christ engaging the community.

595
00:38:26,660 --> 00:38:28,960
And we don't do this a lot as Catholics.

596
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:33,160
What has worked in the past is
that we are Catholic in name,

597
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:37,880
we go to church and we just
assume people are going to show up

598
00:38:37,940 --> 00:38:41,560
for our meetings, for our social
events, for our pancake, breakfast,

599
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:46,160
coffee and donuts. And when
they don't, we blame them. Now,

600
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,600
would the disciples do this? I mean,

601
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,760
they were in the upper
room with the doors locked,

602
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,480
and imagine if they would've just stayed
there and assumed everyone should just

603
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:58,960
come to them and they blame everyone
if they don't show up. Absolutely not.

604
00:38:59,180 --> 00:39:01,360
You know, we need to be
looking at ourselves,

605
00:39:01,380 --> 00:39:03,760
the things that used
to work aren't working.

606
00:39:04,620 --> 00:39:07,760
And so the first thing I do when I
go into a church community is say,

607
00:39:08,020 --> 00:39:12,840
how actively are you engaged outside
of the four walls of your church in

608
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:17,560
your local community? Do people even
know you exist? And if they don't,

609
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,880
that's the very first thing
that we need to be working on.

610
00:39:21,460 --> 00:39:25,480
How are we bringing other
people in? And once we get them,

611
00:39:25,510 --> 00:39:29,880
what kind of church are we bringing
them to? Is it a welcomed parish?

612
00:39:30,210 --> 00:39:34,720
Is it a place where we're actually going
to give them the empowerment to do the

613
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:39,240
things that they wanna do and cultivate
a relationship with the Lord? You know,

614
00:39:39,240 --> 00:39:43,600
a lot of times we finally get them in the
building and no one even says hello to

615
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:44,800
them, you know?

616
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:49,440
So it's looking at it from a
different point of view and really

617
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:54,160
just honing into who we are
created to be as disciples going

618
00:39:54,220 --> 00:39:58,520
out into the community in order
to bring other people into us.

619
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,480
And this has been highly effective.

620
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,400
People don't wanna invest in it because
it's a scary thing. <laugh>, you know,

621
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,760
it's something different.
It's not something that
Catholics are used to doing.

622
00:40:08,330 --> 00:40:11,520
Um, but we had great
success in Connellsville.

623
00:40:11,610 --> 00:40:13,720
We had the highest R C I A,

624
00:40:13,720 --> 00:40:17,920
those are people coming into the church
in the diocese of Greensburg, um,

625
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:22,440
consistently year round, because we were
very, very engaged in the community.

626
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,280
I see. The Uniontown Church is doing this.

627
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,080
People know that they care and
they wanna be a part of that.

628
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:28,520
Young people will get behind it.

629
00:40:29,150 --> 00:40:30,800
Absolutely. And I, you know, I,

630
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,640
I know that the Roman Catholic
churches of Uniontown, uh,

631
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,640
have been doing a lot to,

632
00:40:36,170 --> 00:40:41,080
to deal with food inadequacies and
with hunger. Um, you know, and,

633
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:45,080
and kind of those ministries where
they're not preaching at all,

634
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:49,320
they're just trying to take care of
someone's basic human needs. Um, yeah.

635
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:50,153
You know, being a church.

636
00:40:50,910 --> 00:40:51,400
Just.

637
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:55,320
Be it, and being priced to others has
been extremely important. You know,

638
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,240
in education, um, there is,

639
00:40:58,290 --> 00:41:00,960
there's been an argument
that's been made, uh,

640
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,640
for free and reduced
lunches and breakfasts.

641
00:41:04,060 --> 00:41:08,920
And the thought process is
that if a student's basic human

642
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,560
needs, like having a full mm-hmm.

643
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,720
<affirmative> belly when they
go to class have not been met,

644
00:41:13,750 --> 00:41:18,520
then it's very hard for them
to be engaged in their class

645
00:41:18,660 --> 00:41:21,560
and to learn and to do well. You know,

646
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:25,240
I think everyday life is very
much like that, where, you know,

647
00:41:25,240 --> 00:41:28,120
if basic human needs aren't being met,

648
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:33,000
then maybe going to church and
participating on Sunday isn't

649
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:37,240
at the top of your list, you know, if
you can't afford groceries that week. So.

650
00:41:37,240 --> 00:41:42,040
Right. You know, we as the faithful
and people that have been blessed, uh,

651
00:41:42,170 --> 00:41:46,400
to have things, uh, you
know, things like, uh,

652
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:50,920
like money and or, or time, we
should be blessing others, uh,

653
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,400
with those, um, you know, so I, I,

654
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:58,920
I completely agree with you, Mary. We're
down to, uh, just a couple moments.

655
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:00,840
I want to give you a chance to, uh,

656
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:05,840
to give any final thoughts and
one more promo for your new, uh,

657
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,320
podcast that's gonna be
starting if people want to, uh,

658
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:10,720
want to listen and learn more.

659
00:42:11,870 --> 00:42:14,730
Yes. So, thank you so much
for having me on today.

660
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:19,050
I thank the Uniontown community and
the Collinsville community for always

661
00:42:19,050 --> 00:42:22,970
supporting every single thing,
every missionary, every nonprofit,

662
00:42:22,970 --> 00:42:24,610
everything that I've ever done.

663
00:42:24,730 --> 00:42:28,650
Uniontown and Conwell has always
stepped up in a huge way, um,

664
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for those initiatives. So thank you so
much for your support, your prayers, um,

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your financial giving. Um, in those
missions that I have done over the past,

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my podcast starts on Monday, March
the sixth, live on our Facebook page,

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Christ the Divine Shepherd
Parish. It'll be on YouTube,

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and it'll also be on Spotify, and you
can find it from Sheep to Shepherd.

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And, uh, my guest today has
been Mary Samy. Um, you know,

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we've talked a little bit about some of
the, the writings that I've put out. Uh,

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if you wanna read any of those,

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visit matthew d dowling.com
and click on news.

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You'll see all of, uh, my letters to
the editor and news releases. And, uh,

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because I mentioned, uh, Ms. Dolly
Parton, who is one of my favorite, uh,

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singer songwriters of all
times. Um, you know, I,

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I mentioned that she just
released on her 77th birthday.

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The song Don't Make Me Have
to Come Down There. And, uh,

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the lyrics that really stand out
to me, uh, are I gave you a book.

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You didn't read it. I gave you my word.
You didn't read it, gave you a map.

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You said you didn't need it, and
now you've lost directions. You're,

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you're wandering aimlessly. Don't
make me have to come down you.

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This is down there. It's
not a game of truth or dare.

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So those are the words of Dolly Parton,
which we'll close it out with today.

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Uh, I'm your host, Matthew Dowling,

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and this has been commonalities
on w Nmb S five 90 am

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1 0 1 0.1. That's up.

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This has been commonalities,

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a show where guests find common
ground through uncommon conversations.

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Copyright 2022 Coordinated 360.

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All public rebroadcast should be done
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Dowling.

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All requests should be sent to
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Thank you for listening to commonalities.

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