1 00:00:01,420 --> 00:00:02,350 Starting now. 2 00:00:03,050 --> 00:00:07,270 Commonalities where guests find common ground through uncommon 3 00:00:07,290 --> 00:00:10,910 conversations, politics, religion, finances, 4 00:00:11,010 --> 00:00:14,590 all the topics your grandmother told you not to discuss with friends. 5 00:00:14,930 --> 00:00:17,550 And now your host, Matthew Dowling, 6 00:00:17,770 --> 00:00:20,590 and today's guests on commonalities. 7 00:00:25,860 --> 00:00:29,110 Well, thank you for joining me on another episode of Commonalities. 8 00:00:29,110 --> 00:00:33,270 I'm your host, Matt Dowling, and my guest today is Zane Hensel. 9 00:00:33,270 --> 00:00:37,590 Now Zane is a young man who is running for, uh, school board. 10 00:00:38,010 --> 00:00:42,710 And, uh, Zane, I wanna thank you for being with us here today. Um, 11 00:00:42,710 --> 00:00:46,390 and wanted to give you an opportunity here at the top of the program to tell 12 00:00:46,390 --> 00:00:50,510 people a little bit about yourself, uh, as well as, uh, 13 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:52,110 as what your background is. 14 00:00:52,820 --> 00:00:57,070 Yeah. Well, thank you for having me on. Um, so I am, well, first of all, 15 00:00:57,070 --> 00:00:59,830 my name is Zane. He, I am 18. Uh, 16 00:00:59,830 --> 00:01:03,910 I was a graduate of Ms. Shannon Valley School District in Clearfield County. 17 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:08,190 Um, currently I am a freshman at Bucknell University, 18 00:01:08,190 --> 00:01:10,950 where I'm a political science major. And yeah, 19 00:01:10,950 --> 00:01:12,950 I decided to throw my hat in the ring this year, 20 00:01:12,950 --> 00:01:15,190 the municipal election for school board, 21 00:01:15,190 --> 00:01:17,550 because there's just so much that really needs addressed. 22 00:01:18,890 --> 00:01:23,800 So, you know, one of the questions that I always like to start out with is, 23 00:01:23,890 --> 00:01:28,680 uh, is why are you running for the Board of Education? And if elected, 24 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,440 what would your priorities be? 25 00:01:31,510 --> 00:01:36,440 Yeah, so, um, I grew up in Clearfield County my whole life. Um, you know, 26 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,640 everyone, I, I went there all 12 years of my education. Um, 27 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:44,280 and I really just think that kind of towards my later years in high school, 28 00:01:44,390 --> 00:01:49,120 I kind of noticed the decline in the priority of education 29 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:50,880 itself. I mean, I watched kids, 30 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:55,560 super smart kids who were really just being kind of pushed away and 31 00:01:55,960 --> 00:02:00,720 given the bare minimum in terms of education. Um, and, 32 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:02,480 you know, Shannon Valley especially, 33 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:06,160 we have a big transparency issue between the board of directors, 34 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:10,480 the administration, and the community. Um, and we actually, we've had a great, 35 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,360 great group that has come together. Um, they have a Facebook page, 36 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,680 it's called Making Changes at Ms. Shannon Valley Schools. 37 00:02:17,260 --> 00:02:20,000 And they've come together as about 600 people, 38 00:02:20,540 --> 00:02:22,560 and they're really just discussing, you know, 39 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,600 how can we do better in our district? What are our deficits? 40 00:02:26,020 --> 00:02:29,480 And let's get people to run. I mean, so far there's five seats up, 41 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:33,000 and we have not only the incumbents running for reelection, 42 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:37,040 but we have five new people, including myself. And, you know, our, our, 43 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,160 we're not running as a group, we're all running in as our own individuals, 44 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,960 but my own policy in itself, just, uh, being a student there, 45 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:48,320 my mom worked in the district for about a decade. Um, it's really, 46 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:53,000 it's just about transparency and wasteful spending and getting tax rate lower 47 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:57,960 because we are not in a time right now economically where we can continuously 48 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:02,920 spend wastefully and jack up the tax rates and expect the taxpayers to 49 00:03:02,920 --> 00:03:05,800 just kind of, yep, here's my money. This is not Right. 50 00:03:06,870 --> 00:03:11,120 Well, and, and so one of my follow up questions there would be, 51 00:03:11,420 --> 00:03:16,240 you know, how do you intend to, uh, save the taxpayers money? 52 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,480 Are there programs that you think can be cut? 53 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:23,880 Are there efficiencies that could be put into place? Um, you know, I'm, 54 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:28,880 I'm definitely a believer in holding the line on taxes and spending. 55 00:03:29,490 --> 00:03:31,920 Um, and, and I think that's important, 56 00:03:31,920 --> 00:03:35,640 especially to our senior citizens that are on a fixed income mm-hmm. 57 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,680 <affirmative>. Um, but, you know, it's, it's been said before that, uh, 58 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,280 school boards are where good politicians go to die, 59 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:43,640 because you could do two things. 60 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,640 You could raise taxes or cut services mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And, 61 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,720 and I wanted to kinda get what your vision would be, um, 62 00:03:52,250 --> 00:03:53,600 in that realm. You know, 63 00:03:53,970 --> 00:03:57,600 do you plan on cutting programs or just increasing efficiency, 64 00:03:57,820 --> 00:03:59,760 and if so, how? 65 00:04:00,650 --> 00:04:04,500 Sure. So, um, you know, Shannon Valley itself, 66 00:04:04,500 --> 00:04:06,740 especially with federal and state grants, we're, 67 00:04:06,740 --> 00:04:11,740 we're running about a $16 million, um, income bracket, 68 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,740 but we're, we're wasted in, I mean, we're on average, 69 00:04:14,740 --> 00:04:17,500 we're spending about 16 five a year on average. 70 00:04:17,500 --> 00:04:19,380 I looked in the last four or five years, 71 00:04:19,380 --> 00:04:23,540 we're running a deficit of about $530,000. Um, 72 00:04:23,770 --> 00:04:28,140 they raised taxes about four times in the last decade. Right now, 73 00:04:28,140 --> 00:04:32,300 we're up to about 93 mills. Um, and, you know, 74 00:04:32,300 --> 00:04:34,740 it's really just killing me. And it, it's, once again, 75 00:04:34,740 --> 00:04:38,900 it kind of goes back to wasteful spending in 2020, during the height of covid, 76 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,580 our board of directors decided, Hey, 77 00:04:41,620 --> 00:04:46,020 we're gonna build a new $3 million gymnasium in our elementary school. 78 00:04:46,770 --> 00:04:50,180 Matt, there was nothing wrong with our current two gymnasiums in the district. 79 00:04:52,010 --> 00:04:56,340 I mean, they have continuously, and, and mind you, that, um, 80 00:04:56,490 --> 00:04:57,500 that expansion, 81 00:04:57,500 --> 00:05:01,900 that construction resulted in a two male tax increase in May of 82 00:05:01,900 --> 00:05:06,460 2021. These people, I mean, they don't, they don't, 83 00:05:06,460 --> 00:05:10,020 you're especially right, these senior citizens, I mean, 84 00:05:10,060 --> 00:05:15,020 48% of the Machina Valley School district is impoverished. 85 00:05:15,050 --> 00:05:17,740 I mean, we're in a very high area of economic despair. 86 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,500 And I think that the last people, these people need to worry about, 87 00:05:21,500 --> 00:05:25,020 the last thing these people need to worry about is, oh, well, 88 00:05:25,020 --> 00:05:29,140 they raised our taxes, so I gotta pay more on my house taxes. Or, you know, 89 00:05:29,140 --> 00:05:33,900 they're gonna take, they're gonna share, sell my house. Like, it's just, it's a, 90 00:05:33,930 --> 00:05:35,580 a mass of wasteful spending. 91 00:05:37,370 --> 00:05:38,220 Absolutely. 92 00:05:38,310 --> 00:05:43,060 So what particular experience or skills do you think that you have, 93 00:05:43,710 --> 00:05:48,660 uh, that would make you a good member of the, the board of directors there? 94 00:05:49,450 --> 00:05:53,420 Sure. So I was actually the student representative on the school board, uh, 95 00:05:53,420 --> 00:05:57,480 my senior year. So 21, 22. Um, 96 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:02,440 I was there kind of during the big department of, uh, health mask mandate. 97 00:06:02,710 --> 00:06:05,880 I watched the community concerns come with that. Um, 98 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,840 I expressed student concerns with that, 99 00:06:08,300 --> 00:06:11,040 and I watched the board of directors time and time again, 100 00:06:11,340 --> 00:06:13,880 not even addressed the community. I mean, Matt, 101 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:18,760 we have probably about six to 10 parents, which really, there is quite a bit, 102 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,160 because our district only serves about 800 students. 103 00:06:21,690 --> 00:06:25,760 We have maybe about six to 10 parents come every board meeting every month. 104 00:06:26,060 --> 00:06:28,840 And the board doesn't even acknowledge them. I mean, 105 00:06:28,840 --> 00:06:31,640 they'll let them do their kind of three, five minute speech, 106 00:06:31,740 --> 00:06:35,040 and they'll just watch them and then go back to business as usual. 107 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,280 There is no transparency with this board of directors, 108 00:06:38,280 --> 00:06:40,440 with the people that they represent. I mean, 109 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,280 they are so out of touch that it isn't, 110 00:06:43,580 --> 00:06:48,360 the board of directors does not represent the Machin Valley community 111 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:49,960 anymore at this rate. 112 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:54,400 They're just kind of all continuously voting together. I mean, 113 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:58,880 there's no objection to administrator policy. What kind of comes, goes, 114 00:06:59,730 --> 00:07:03,640 um, like I said, there's just, there's no representation of the community. 115 00:07:03,650 --> 00:07:04,483 If there were, 116 00:07:04,690 --> 00:07:07,600 we wouldn't be having five new members wanting to run for the board. 117 00:07:09,230 --> 00:07:11,200 Sure. So, I, you know, I, 118 00:07:11,230 --> 00:07:15,920 I like to talk to school board members and candidates for school boards 119 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:20,120 about what they see as being, um, 120 00:07:20,380 --> 00:07:22,400 the responsibility of a board member, 121 00:07:22,900 --> 00:07:27,600 and then the responsibility of the administration and the superintendent, 122 00:07:27,940 --> 00:07:29,800 and how do those, uh, 123 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:34,640 those individuals work together in tandem, uh, 124 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:38,600 to bring a, a good education to the students of the area, 125 00:07:39,330 --> 00:07:43,680 um, while at the same time being cognizant about the, uh, 126 00:07:43,980 --> 00:07:47,360 the taxes that are, are being, uh, 127 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:52,600 being sent out for, uh, property tax, et cetera, to fund that school. 128 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,440 Right. So, I mean, the bottom line is the board of education, 129 00:07:56,460 --> 00:07:59,680 the board of directors for our district is meant to represent the community. 130 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:03,360 Period. That's it. I mean, they should be taking a new account, 131 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,960 every tax increase, every budgetary path. 132 00:08:06,350 --> 00:08:09,640 They should be sitting down with the community members, and they don't, 133 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,520 but they should be and saying, Hey, this is what we want to do. 134 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:13,560 What are your thoughts? 135 00:08:14,020 --> 00:08:18,720 The job of the administration should be to run the school however they see fit. 136 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,480 They're the experts in education. I have no issue with that. 137 00:08:21,950 --> 00:08:23,560 What I have an issue with, though, 138 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:28,320 is the administration coming up with things such as an elementary gym expansion 139 00:08:28,740 --> 00:08:29,520 for, you know, 140 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:34,280 hiring a curriculum coach to essentially teach our teachers 141 00:08:34,700 --> 00:08:38,920 how to educate. It's just, it's kind of useless positions such as that, 142 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,400 that I'm seeing that it's like, why are we doing this? 143 00:08:41,900 --> 00:08:46,360 Why aren't we investing in things such as student welfare committees or, 144 00:08:46,540 --> 00:08:51,280 you know, just more opportunities for our teachers. Um, like I said, the, the, 145 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,160 the bottom line to the board of directors is they're supposed to be taking 146 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:59,040 community consideration or community concerns in the consideration, 147 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:03,240 rather. And they're not, they're just kind of sitting dormant, 148 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:07,600 passing kind of everything as the administration wants them to pass. 149 00:09:07,620 --> 00:09:08,600 And that's that. 150 00:09:10,630 --> 00:09:12,080 Sure. So, you know, 151 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:16,640 while we're kind of talking about transparency and things of that nature with 152 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,480 the school board, I wanna talk about, uh, 153 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:23,360 board member accessibility to the community. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know, 154 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:28,200 what are some ideas that you have on ways that you will communicate with your 155 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:32,400 constituents, uh, about what's happening on the school board, 156 00:09:32,410 --> 00:09:37,320 or the votes that may be coming up, uh, should you be elected to this position? 157 00:09:38,070 --> 00:09:41,240 Sure. So, yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm young, you know, 158 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,920 so I'm really trying to utilize social media, um, 159 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:47,440 stuff like this right now that we're doing. Um, I have a website, 160 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:52,160 a hensel for pa.com, where I'm kind of outlining my plan. Um, 161 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,160 I have a Facebook page with about 200 followers on it. 162 00:09:55,620 --> 00:09:58,160 And like I had mentioned before with the group, uh, 163 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:02,160 the community group on Facebook, I'm doing that. And that's my whole thing. 164 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,520 If I'm trying to be open, I'm trying to be transparent. 165 00:10:04,980 --> 00:10:07,840 I'm not saying everything is fantastic in our district. 166 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:09,960 I'm acknowledging the deficits that we have, 167 00:10:10,140 --> 00:10:13,560 but I'm willing to put a solution towards that. And, you know, I, 168 00:10:13,560 --> 00:10:17,400 I'll continue to do that. I have no reason to not do that. If I'm on the board, 169 00:10:17,860 --> 00:10:21,480 I'm not running for the board because my, you know, I have kids on the board. 170 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,840 I'm running because I was a kid in the district, 171 00:10:24,380 --> 00:10:28,880 and I think that students could deserve better. Um, you know, I'm seeing, 172 00:10:29,430 --> 00:10:32,840 like I said, I'm seeing these brilliant kids being pushed away from college, 173 00:10:33,450 --> 00:10:36,000 or these kids that don't really want to go into trade, 174 00:10:36,010 --> 00:10:39,160 be pushed into our local trade programs. But don't get me wrong, 175 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,360 I have nothing wrong with trade. Both of my parents work in manufacturing, 176 00:10:42,580 --> 00:10:47,080 but we need to get equitable access for educational opportunities 177 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:48,760 across the board. And we're not, 178 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:52,960 we're essentially segregating these kids from a young age into whether they, 179 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:57,400 the district sees them as college prep fit or technical prep fit, 180 00:10:58,020 --> 00:11:00,800 and that's just not a way to do things. So, I mean, 181 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,320 I absolutely will continue utilizing social media, a website. 182 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:08,360 I'll continue doing radio interviews like this until, you know, 183 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,400 until I see fit or that I see that the Shannon Valley community is adequately 184 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,320 informed on what's happening in their board directors. I mean, 185 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:20,080 it's getting so bad, Matt, that our, uh, board, our board of director minutes, 186 00:11:20,450 --> 00:11:23,280 they're not being released immediately after the meeting. 187 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,600 They're being released a month after the meeting. 188 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:30,720 February's was just put on probably about two weeks ago. 189 00:11:31,550 --> 00:11:34,560 Same as the budget. I had to email our, um, 190 00:11:35,290 --> 00:11:36,560 finance director, 191 00:11:36,560 --> 00:11:40,760 because I couldn't sign the budget for 22 or for 23. Yeah, 192 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:44,200 22 to 23. I mean, it's just, it's stuff like that. 193 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,200 There is an absolute lack of transparency, 194 00:11:46,220 --> 00:11:49,800 and there's a lack of mismanagement that's happening. And it's, 195 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,040 it's the direct fault of the board of directors, 196 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,720 because they should be overseeing that Everything is readily available to the 197 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:56,220 community, 198 00:11:56,220 --> 00:12:00,640 and every action that they do should be essentially endorsed by the community, 199 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,720 and it's not, it's a their way or the highway type thing. 200 00:12:05,590 --> 00:12:09,240 Well, we have to get our first break in here, uh, real quick, Zane, 201 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,240 and when we come back, I wanna talk, um, 202 00:12:12,250 --> 00:12:16,840 charter schools and private schools and school choice. 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Again, 259 00:15:57,730 --> 00:16:01,810 that is donate.commonalities.online on the worldwide web. 260 00:16:02,030 --> 00:16:06,570 Buy our host a cup of coffee or help pay for airtime at donate dot commonalities 261 00:16:06,570 --> 00:16:07,403 online. 262 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,530 Thanks for staying with us through the break here on Commonalities Today. 263 00:16:14,530 --> 00:16:19,370 I'm your host, Matt Dowling. My guest is Zane Hensel, and he is, 264 00:16:19,540 --> 00:16:23,650 uh, a candidate for school district. Um, 265 00:16:24,070 --> 00:16:28,650 and Zane, before the break, I said I wanted to talk about charter schools, uh, 266 00:16:28,650 --> 00:16:31,650 school choice private schools. You know, 267 00:16:31,650 --> 00:16:34,330 you're running for a position that, uh, 268 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:39,170 they would oversee the governance of a public school district, 269 00:16:39,580 --> 00:16:40,450 um mm-hmm. <affirmative>. But I, 270 00:16:40,450 --> 00:16:45,090 I did want to give you a chance to talk a little bit about your thoughts on 271 00:16:45,090 --> 00:16:49,370 cyber charters, brick and mortar charters and private education. 272 00:16:49,910 --> 00:16:50,930 You know, uh, 273 00:16:50,980 --> 00:16:55,250 do you think that there should be more choice given to parents here in the 274 00:16:55,250 --> 00:16:56,250 Commonwealth of Pennsylvania? 275 00:16:57,470 --> 00:16:58,810 Yes. So, first of all, 276 00:16:58,810 --> 00:17:02,890 I am a advocate of school choice just because of where I grew up. Um, 277 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:07,530 I mean, like I had mentioned before, the, the community that I'm running for, 278 00:17:07,530 --> 00:17:10,690 it's very economically dissatisfied, very impoverished. 279 00:17:11,070 --> 00:17:14,490 And I think that if the parents can afford it, and, you know, I, 280 00:17:14,490 --> 00:17:17,570 I'm a big fan of school choice in that aspect because I know a lot of parents 281 00:17:17,570 --> 00:17:18,730 that couldn't afford it. 282 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:22,370 They should have every equal opportunity to send their kids to somewhere that 283 00:17:22,370 --> 00:17:25,770 they believe they would get a better end result in education. Um, 284 00:17:26,090 --> 00:17:30,170 cyber charters, we've lost a lot of students. The cyber charters, 285 00:17:30,820 --> 00:17:33,250 uh, now the, the school district actually after Covid, 286 00:17:33,250 --> 00:17:37,850 they had kind of set up their own program where the kids that have decided to go 287 00:17:37,850 --> 00:17:41,770 charter, they could go through kind of a district sponsor type thing, and, 288 00:17:41,770 --> 00:17:43,170 you know, the district would pay for it. 289 00:17:43,360 --> 00:17:48,130 That cost the school district a lot of money in comparison to what it would 290 00:17:48,130 --> 00:17:53,000 cost for them to kind of keep them in the brick and mortar situation. Um, 291 00:17:53,490 --> 00:17:56,200 on average, I mean, the Shannon Valley School District, 292 00:17:56,200 --> 00:18:00,200 they spend about $3,000 less for their brick and mortar kids than the statewide 293 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,480 average. And it, it's not fantastic. Um, 294 00:18:03,940 --> 00:18:08,280 now I'm not saying that they're using old textbooks and stuff like that, 295 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,960 but there's just something that's not going on there, in which the, 296 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,720 the money should be kind of inflow more with per student capita. 297 00:18:16,650 --> 00:18:20,380 Um, in regards to kind of like the private charters, 298 00:18:20,380 --> 00:18:21,660 the brick and mortar stuff, 299 00:18:21,870 --> 00:18:24,860 we don't really have a lot of that in the community to kind of have a good 300 00:18:24,860 --> 00:18:29,460 opinion on it personally. Like I mentioned, I'm for school choice. 301 00:18:29,750 --> 00:18:31,940 If, if I'm a parent and I think, Hey, 302 00:18:31,940 --> 00:18:34,260 my kid can kind of get a better education somewhere else, 303 00:18:34,610 --> 00:18:38,500 then I should have every right to take my property tax dollars and push that 304 00:18:38,500 --> 00:18:40,020 towards a, a tuition cost. 305 00:18:42,010 --> 00:18:45,980 Sure. You know, and, and I look at you as, as being a, uh, 306 00:18:46,210 --> 00:18:50,740 a young candidate for school board, um, guessing maybe this, uh, 307 00:18:50,740 --> 00:18:53,900 will not be the only stop for you in your political career. 308 00:18:53,900 --> 00:18:57,820 Perhaps you'll run for other offices. Um, but I, you know, 309 00:18:57,820 --> 00:19:02,620 while you don't have control as a member of the local school board to 310 00:19:02,890 --> 00:19:07,460 change the, uh, the laws and regulations at the state or federal level, 311 00:19:07,890 --> 00:19:12,260 I did wanna ask you, um, you know, as a political science major, 312 00:19:13,010 --> 00:19:17,940 what are some educational changes that you think need to be made by 313 00:19:17,940 --> 00:19:20,100 the state legislature or, uh, 314 00:19:20,150 --> 00:19:25,020 by the US Congress to really empower those people that are 315 00:19:25,020 --> 00:19:26,540 running our local school districts? 316 00:19:28,180 --> 00:19:29,390 Well, I'm gonna be honest, 317 00:19:29,500 --> 00:19:33,190 I think that they kind of need to put more the federal government, at least. 318 00:19:33,190 --> 00:19:38,190 I really do think that they need to put more control into the state and how they 319 00:19:38,190 --> 00:19:39,830 kind of developed their, um, 320 00:19:41,750 --> 00:19:45,910 their goals essentially. Um, same with the state. I mean, they should, 321 00:19:46,810 --> 00:19:50,590 the state is essentially setting the goals that they want the districts to 322 00:19:50,590 --> 00:19:53,870 follow. And the school districts are essentially saying, yep, 323 00:19:53,870 --> 00:19:55,830 we'll just check all the boxes. I, 324 00:19:55,830 --> 00:19:59,830 I'm a big advocate for every school is different, every student is different. 325 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:00,790 Um, 326 00:20:00,790 --> 00:20:04,030 and I think that schools should kind of have the freedom to be able to develop 327 00:20:04,030 --> 00:20:04,990 their own curriculum. 328 00:20:05,370 --> 00:20:09,230 I'm actually kind of advocating for an open curriculum system. Um, 329 00:20:09,230 --> 00:20:11,630 state College area school district, 330 00:20:11,630 --> 00:20:14,230 they have an open curriculum with their English department, 331 00:20:14,370 --> 00:20:18,110 and I've heard tremendous things on how it improves student engagement and test 332 00:20:18,110 --> 00:20:22,110 scores and such. But another thing is the state standardized tests, 333 00:20:22,630 --> 00:20:26,750 while, you know, I understand their importance and I understand the utilization, 334 00:20:27,570 --> 00:20:31,790 essentially schools are teaching for the tests and not teaching for the 335 00:20:31,790 --> 00:20:36,390 education. Um, and that's really where it's, I mean, I'm getting, 336 00:20:36,730 --> 00:20:40,910 I'm getting a lot of overwhelming support from my community, obviously, 337 00:20:40,910 --> 00:20:44,510 in my run, just because still fact and young. Um, 338 00:20:44,970 --> 00:20:47,110 but they are essentially, like I had mentioned, 339 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,640 they're teaching for the tests and these schools, 340 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,440 that's all they're seeing is dollar signs, essentially, because the, 341 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:56,640 the better they do on the tests, the better their funding ultimately is. Um, 342 00:20:56,750 --> 00:21:00,240 I mean, our, our test scores, just to give me some numbers here, Matt, 343 00:21:00,850 --> 00:21:03,400 they're pretty poor, but, um, 344 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:08,320 like 40% of our students at the Shannon Valley are scoring 345 00:21:08,750 --> 00:21:12,200 just in the basics for kind of the math and the English PSAs. 346 00:21:13,130 --> 00:21:14,360 So they're, 347 00:21:14,610 --> 00:21:19,320 they're essentially taking up 180 days that the state kind of forces them to 348 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:23,800 have, but they're essentially setting it all up for this one exam in, 349 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,800 in the spring or in the keystone, you know, in the winter. Um, 350 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,560 and it's just not, it's not effective anymore. 351 00:21:32,810 --> 00:21:36,760 So what are your thoughts and feelings about parents that wanna opt their kids 352 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,400 out of these standardized tests? 353 00:21:40,110 --> 00:21:45,080 Well, um, I'm gonna be honest, I don't really have a super big opinion on it, 354 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,360 but I mean, if they're willing to opt them out, 355 00:21:47,790 --> 00:21:52,480 I guess the only thing that I would like to see would be kind of a policy on, 356 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:56,600 as long as the kid is passing, um, obviously I don't think someone is, is, 357 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,520 is failing in their curriculum, should be able to kind of opt out of the test. 358 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,000 But just from the parents that I've spoke to, 359 00:22:03,140 --> 00:22:06,960 and even my own experience with the kind of current Pennsylvania standardized 360 00:22:07,120 --> 00:22:10,960 testing, it causes a lot, a lot, a lot of stress, 361 00:22:11,300 --> 00:22:15,600 and this kind of basic distraction for what really should be taught in the 362 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:20,400 classroom. I mean, there, I I can count several occasions in which, 363 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,000 you know, the teacher would put on the board, 364 00:22:22,020 --> 00:22:24,440 you guys need to know this because it'll be on the key standard, 365 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:25,760 or it'll be on the psfa. 366 00:22:26,340 --> 00:22:29,640 And I don't think that we should be teaching kids that kind of stuff, 367 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,640 just for the sole purpose of them to pass the test. I mean, 368 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:33,840 if you wanna see results, 369 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,720 if you wanna see that kids are proficient in a certain subject, 370 00:22:37,950 --> 00:22:41,240 then it should just be a matter of can they pass their class. 371 00:22:41,790 --> 00:22:43,560 I don't think that, you know, I, 372 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:47,600 I think maybe that each school district should be able to kind of compile a 373 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:51,080 report from that. And, you know, if, if the state needs to be informed of that, 374 00:22:51,090 --> 00:22:54,080 perhaps they can send it right to the Department of Education. 375 00:22:54,380 --> 00:22:55,760 But I just see that these, 376 00:22:55,760 --> 00:23:00,480 these standardized tests are on this distractions for ensuring that the 377 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:04,480 education is kind of continuous and not jumping around the place to cover stuff 378 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:05,313 for a test. 379 00:23:06,650 --> 00:23:10,640 So, um, you know, we, we've discussed, uh, 380 00:23:10,990 --> 00:23:13,440 a lot about your feelings on, uh, 381 00:23:13,530 --> 00:23:17,800 on education and where you prioritize, um, 382 00:23:17,870 --> 00:23:22,280 things going. I, I wanted to give you an opportunity to talk about, um, 383 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,640 after school activities and opportunities that, uh, 384 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,640 are given to the student body, uh, 385 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:33,600 whether it be career and technical training, um, uh, things like bands, 386 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,760 things, things like sports, um, you know, 387 00:23:36,830 --> 00:23:40,880 what are your thoughts and opinions on, uh, on those kind of issues? 388 00:23:41,670 --> 00:23:42,160 Yeah. 389 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,920 So one of the things that I'm actually advocating for is a increased kind of 390 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:46,920 student involvement, 391 00:23:46,970 --> 00:23:51,080 because it's becoming to the fact that these kids are just going to school from 392 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:55,160 eight o'clock to three, which is our schedule. Um, and then that's, 393 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,480 that's about it. I mean, unless they're in sports or band or maybe our, 394 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:03,440 our drama club where we perform in such, um, there isn't much to do. So I, 395 00:24:03,470 --> 00:24:06,760 I kind of, especially coming to college and seeing, you know, 396 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,800 the different backgrounds of people from public to private schools, I'm, 397 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,480 I'm looking into things like J R otc, I'm looking into things like a, um, 398 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,080 like a pre-law society in which we could kind of take groups of students over 399 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,200 and watch court proceedings. I mean, I'm, I'm looking at, 400 00:24:21,350 --> 00:24:25,360 it's things that would not only increase the student's knowledge in a certain 401 00:24:25,360 --> 00:24:26,060 field, 402 00:24:26,060 --> 00:24:30,080 but would increase kind of like a better social situation in the district. 403 00:24:30,380 --> 00:24:33,960 And furthermore, just, um, speaking about vocational opportunities, 404 00:24:34,050 --> 00:24:36,440 we have a vocational center in Clearfield County, 405 00:24:36,860 --> 00:24:39,800 and there is a large percentage, just given that we're a rural area, 406 00:24:40,020 --> 00:24:41,880 who kind of go in and, you know, 407 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,080 they'll do like a half day at school and a half day at the vocational center. 408 00:24:45,130 --> 00:24:48,760 However, hands on in the actual school district itself, 409 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,120 there isn't much to do. Um, 410 00:24:51,120 --> 00:24:55,040 we have a future Farmers of America program there. Um, 411 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,440 they go to like the PA farm show and such like that. 412 00:24:57,660 --> 00:25:00,080 But I'm looking at kind of things such as, I mean, 413 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,440 we have a lot of land in valley, we have a couple acres, and it's not used. 414 00:25:03,650 --> 00:25:07,920 So I'm looking at things like, oh, can we develop, you know, a student led farm? 415 00:25:08,300 --> 00:25:12,120 Can we kind of do stuff like that in which the students can take their class 416 00:25:12,120 --> 00:25:16,000 time and they can go outside and, and they can learn hands on, 417 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,160 and they don't need to, you know, 418 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,040 get on a bus and drive 15 minutes away to the vocational center. 419 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:25,560 Vocational education is crucial to the continuity of it's rural 420 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:30,120 Pennsylvania economics. I absolutely can see that through and through. Um, 421 00:25:30,120 --> 00:25:32,560 and I absolutely know that college isn't for everyone, 422 00:25:33,500 --> 00:25:36,960 but I think where the district is lacking is, you know, 423 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,560 our in-house opportunities for our vocational kids. I mean, 424 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,520 we don't even have a shop teacher anymore. 425 00:25:43,230 --> 00:25:47,320 Yeah. And that, that really is, uh, a pity, you know, 426 00:25:47,670 --> 00:25:52,040 I know that, um, you know, family consumer science programs, what, 427 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,760 what I used to know is Home Ec mm-hmm. <affirmative>, uh, those shop classes, 428 00:25:55,950 --> 00:25:58,360 autobody classes, um, 429 00:25:58,550 --> 00:26:02,120 really have been some of the hardest hits as mm-hmm. <affirmative>, uh, 430 00:26:02,120 --> 00:26:05,920 school boards are looking to cut back their budgets, um mm-hmm. <affirmative>, 431 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,440 but some of those opportunities are opportunities that, um, 432 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:14,720 would be detrimental if they didn't exist for the student body. 433 00:26:15,410 --> 00:26:17,880 Um, you know, so I I'm completely with you, that, 434 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:22,800 that those kind of things have to continue to exist so that students, 435 00:26:22,810 --> 00:26:26,280 uh, are exposed to them and, and so forth. 436 00:26:26,510 --> 00:26:31,200 I think another important thing to remember is these extracurricular activities, 437 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,280 keep our students busy, keep 'em off the street mm-hmm. 438 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,880 <affirmative> and ultimately out of our courtrooms. Um, you know, 439 00:26:38,210 --> 00:26:42,840 because if they are given too much time, you know, uh, they say, 440 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,160 say idle, uh, hands are the devil's tools. Uh, 441 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,680 you have students that will get into a little bit of trouble, 442 00:26:48,700 --> 00:26:52,080 and then we as a community have to find a way to, 443 00:26:52,450 --> 00:26:54,480 to help them through those situations. 444 00:26:54,570 --> 00:26:58,520 So if we keep them involved in extracurricular activities, 445 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:03,280 it gives them less time to, uh, to kinda explore the, 446 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,440 the darker things that are out there for them. Um, you know, I, 447 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:12,000 I wanted to give you an opportunity to talk about anything that we haven't 448 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,600 covered thus far, um, 449 00:27:14,750 --> 00:27:18,280 that is on your mind and is key to, uh, 450 00:27:18,770 --> 00:27:21,360 to your platform that you're running on. 451 00:27:22,460 --> 00:27:22,880 Yes. 452 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,120 So actually one of the things that I would love to touch on is the current kind 453 00:27:26,120 --> 00:27:29,480 of teacher shortage that is nationwide. Uh, 454 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,920 the Shayna Valley has lost over a quarter of their teaching staff in just the 455 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:37,880 last year, and actually just last week, they actually, 456 00:27:38,050 --> 00:27:41,800 um, two more just left. So, I mean, it's, it's, 457 00:27:42,030 --> 00:27:45,680 it's becoming a current problem where we're having students who are, you know, 458 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,320 showing up for their biology class, 459 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,400 and then a month later they don't have a biology teacher because they quit. 460 00:27:50,620 --> 00:27:51,453 And this is. 461 00:27:51,500 --> 00:27:55,320 And where, where, where are we losing these teachers too? 462 00:27:56,740 --> 00:27:59,640 You know, that's the thing where transparency cuts in. 463 00:27:59,660 --> 00:28:03,840 I'm advocating for exit interviews. We don't have exit interviews. Um, 464 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:08,440 because I want to know, you know, I wanna know, is it an issue of wages? 465 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,360 Is it an issue of benefits? Is it an issue of staff treatment? 466 00:28:11,670 --> 00:28:16,080 I wanna know where we're falling short because we should not be losing this many 467 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:20,720 teachers, especially long-term teachers to, we, 468 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:21,680 we don't know. I mean, 469 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,320 the administration can make all the excuses that they want. Um, 470 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:29,520 our administration loves to act like there isn't a problem. But I, 471 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,320 I'm gonna be honest, Matt, if if you're, um, 472 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,600 if you're on a board of a corporation and you hire a ceo, 473 00:28:35,780 --> 00:28:38,080 and the CEO loses the quarter of the staff, 474 00:28:38,190 --> 00:28:41,200 you're gonna be like going to the CEO and being like, Hey, what's, 475 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,240 what's going on here? Our board of directors is not doing that. 476 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,080 They're not overseeing that. Um, there, there's a problem. 477 00:28:48,300 --> 00:28:52,640 I'm not entirely sure where it lies. I mean, there's allegations, um, 478 00:28:53,290 --> 00:28:55,520 of mismanagement, of staff abuse, 479 00:28:56,010 --> 00:28:59,680 of kind of like a constant having to look over the shoulders from a teacher's 480 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,800 perspective. There's just a lot of fishy stuff potentially happening. 481 00:29:04,810 --> 00:29:08,960 Um, honestly, I I, I, I don't know where they're going. 482 00:29:09,030 --> 00:29:13,720 I wish we could keep them stay because it, it's really impacting our students. 483 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,560 It's impacting our test scores. The only ones suffering from this are the kids. 484 00:29:19,290 --> 00:29:21,260 Sure. Sure. Well, Zane, 485 00:29:21,260 --> 00:29:25,180 we have to get our final break in here real quick and recognize our sponsors. 486 00:29:25,180 --> 00:29:28,380 When we come back, I wanna give you an opportunity to, uh, 487 00:29:28,380 --> 00:29:32,580 tell people how to get ahold of you, how to get involved with your campaign, um, 488 00:29:32,580 --> 00:29:37,220 and some of your, uh, your thoughts for, uh, for the future, 489 00:29:37,220 --> 00:29:42,080 whether you are elected or, uh, or so forth. 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Online. 548 00:33:36,140 --> 00:33:38,870 You're listening to Commonalities. I'm your host, Matt Dowling. 549 00:33:38,870 --> 00:33:43,270 My guest today is Zane Hensel. He is, uh, an 18 year old if, 550 00:33:43,270 --> 00:33:45,910 if I remember from the top of the show, Zane, 551 00:33:46,010 --> 00:33:49,870 who is running for his local school board. Uh, 552 00:33:49,870 --> 00:33:54,430 and he's just outside of, uh, of our AM and FM listening area, 553 00:33:54,430 --> 00:33:59,150 but we do have people that listen to the show as a podcast across the 554 00:33:59,150 --> 00:33:59,590 Commonwealth. 555 00:33:59,590 --> 00:34:04,310 So we wanted to give Zane a opportunity to come on and talk about his thoughts 556 00:34:04,310 --> 00:34:08,710 and feelings. We've covered, uh, kind of a lot of his, uh, 557 00:34:08,710 --> 00:34:10,910 his feelings on education. But Zane, 558 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,510 in addition to your final thoughts and wrap up, 559 00:34:14,510 --> 00:34:18,470 I wanted to give you an opportunity to give people, um, you know, 560 00:34:18,470 --> 00:34:22,430 contact information or let them know how to get in touch with you or to 561 00:34:22,430 --> 00:34:23,630 volunteer for your campaign. 562 00:34:24,380 --> 00:34:26,710 Yeah, of course, sir. As I mentioned, um, 563 00:34:26,710 --> 00:34:30,750 I'm really just doing kind of a grassroots social media go door talking, 564 00:34:30,930 --> 00:34:34,270 but I'm, I'm really available in just about every platform. Um, 565 00:34:34,270 --> 00:34:38,590 I have a website. It's Hensel, h e n s a l, for pa.com. 566 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,830 On Facebook, you can find me at Zane Hensel from Shannon Valley School Board. 567 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,790 Um, there I have things like my email address, my, 568 00:34:46,790 --> 00:34:48,110 I even have my personal phone number, 569 00:34:48,110 --> 00:34:52,230 because that's how eager I am to hear every concern of the people of Ms. Shannon 570 00:34:52,230 --> 00:34:53,270 Valley. Like, 571 00:34:53,270 --> 00:34:57,630 I wanna know just about everything I can to ensure that we get this district 572 00:34:57,630 --> 00:34:58,950 back to where it needs to be. 573 00:35:01,430 --> 00:35:05,080 Well, you know, I, I definitely thank you for being open, uh, 574 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,560 to taking questions, uh, from your constituency. 575 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:12,680 I think that's something very important for those who run for school board, 576 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:16,920 those who run for local elected office, and even those who are, you know, 577 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:21,480 running for our state house or state senate. Um, you know, that makes the, 578 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:26,120 all the difference is if your elected representative is willing to, 579 00:35:26,250 --> 00:35:30,320 to listen to the constituents of the area. Zane, 580 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:34,120 we have just a moment or two left on the program today. Uh, 581 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,120 any final thoughts that you wanted to share with our listeners? 582 00:35:38,180 --> 00:35:38,850 Uh, you know, 583 00:35:38,850 --> 00:35:41,890 I just think that we need to get more young people involved in our elected 584 00:35:41,890 --> 00:35:46,290 office. Um, I mean, even, even me, like I, as a student, you know, 585 00:35:46,290 --> 00:35:50,370 I saw firsthand the deficits that our Board of Education has provided the 586 00:35:50,370 --> 00:35:51,850 students. And, you know, 587 00:35:51,850 --> 00:35:55,690 I just think that it's really crucial that young people step up and we start to 588 00:35:55,690 --> 00:35:56,523 lead. 589 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,410 Well, I thank you for, uh, you know, 590 00:35:59,650 --> 00:36:03,170 stepping kind of outta your comfort zone and putting your name on that ballot. 591 00:36:03,540 --> 00:36:03,890 Uh, 592 00:36:03,890 --> 00:36:08,610 we need more young people to do that for offices and positions throughout our 593 00:36:08,610 --> 00:36:13,410 entire commonwealth and country. Um, this has been an episode of commonalities. 594 00:36:13,410 --> 00:36:15,970 My guest today was Zane Hensel, uh, 595 00:36:15,970 --> 00:36:20,370 a candidate for his local school board. We thank you all for listening. 596 00:36:23,610 --> 00:36:27,580 Okay, Zane, that, uh, that is gonna be it. And, uh, 597 00:36:27,580 --> 00:36:30,860 we'll get that cut up and, uh, and it'll go out next Tuesday. 598 00:36:31,730 --> 00:36:33,100 Alrighty. Thank you so much. 599 00:36:33,370 --> 00:36:34,820 Okay. Have a good day. Bye-Bye. 600 00:36:38,090 --> 00:36:40,260 This has been commonalities, 601 00:36:40,570 --> 00:36:44,820 a show where guests find common ground through uncommon conversations. 602 00:36:44,860 --> 00:36:47,660 Copyright 2022 coordinated 360. 603 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,380 All public rebroadcast should be done with prior written approval from Matthew 604 00:36:51,380 --> 00:36:56,140 Dowling. All requests should be sent to info@coordinatedthreesixty.com. 605 00:36:56,140 --> 00:36:58,740 Thank you for listening to commonalities.

29Mar, 2023