Episode 22 – Politics in the Pennsylvania House with Rep. Ryan Warner (R) 52nd Legislative District – Transcript

07Mar, 2023
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Starting now.

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Commonalities where guests find
common ground through uncommon

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conversations, politics,
religion, finances,

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all the topics your grandmother told
you not to discuss with friends.

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And now your host, Matthew Dowling,

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and today's guests on commonalities.

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Well, thank you for joining another
episode of Commonalities. I'm your host,

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Matt Dowling. My guest
today is someone who, uh,

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most of Fayette County should
be familiar with my, uh,

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former colleague and good friend,
representative Ryan Warner. Ryan,

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thank you so much for
being on today's program.

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Matt, thanks so much for having me.

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I, I wanted to give you an opportunity
at the top of the hour here to, uh,

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give us a little bit of a self biography.
Um, you know, I, I don't know if,

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uh, new committee assignments, um,
that you may have that you wanna share.

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Uh, I know that the start of
the house session has been, uh,

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what I'll kind of call a
little bit rocky and, uh,

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for the listeners at home. Uh, there,
I always tell people there's, um,

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no surprises of the fact that, you know,
I was a conf conservative Republican.

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I am a conservative Republican
for the purpose of this show.

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I try to stay pretty neutral, um,

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but things just aren't the same as, uh,

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as when I was serving
there in the house. Uh,

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things have definitely been a little, uh,

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rocky here at the start of the session.

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So why don't you give us a little bit of
your background and maybe any committee

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assignments you have?

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Yeah, yeah. Thanks, Matt.
Yeah, so this is, uh,

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this is my fifth term, uh,
in, in the State House. I,

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I represent the 52nd District,

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which is now consolidated to
just be Fayette County. It's, um,

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geographically, it's, it's
mainly Northern Fayette County.

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And we did just get our
committee assignments.

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We actually were just assigned
to them today, which is, uh,

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as you'd mentioned it,
we're off to a rough start.

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Here is very late to receive
our, our committee assignments,

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but I am will be on the
appropriations committee. Again,

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I'll be on Consumer affairs,

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and I will be on the Environmental
and Energy Committee.

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So, um, you know, I,

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I just wanna point out to people
that may not realize committee

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assignments, at least for the three
terms that I served in the house. Um,

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we were generally handed
out during the month of, uh,

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of December. And, uh,

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they were made official with an official
meeting at that committee in early

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January. So you guys are, uh,
kind of three months behind also,

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um, happening, uh, today, as
our listeners are listening,

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but we're actually recording a day
early, is the governor's budget address.

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And so I wanted to ask
you what you think, um,

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although, you know, reports may be
be out by the time this episode airs,

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what do you think or anticipate, uh,

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the governor is going to
put in his budget address?

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What are his key goals
or takeaways going to be?

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You know, Matt, you, your guess on
this is as good as mine. I am, uh,

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I'm gonna have my ears
wide open tomorrow, uh, to,

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uh, you know, to see what the governor
has to say. I, I don't know if his,

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if he's gonna go the same direction
as Tom Wolf, uh, now, governor Wolf,

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it is not much of a secret that,
that each year he proposed, uh,

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large increases in, in spending and,

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and often tax increases to
go along with those, uh,

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large spending increases. I,

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I don't know whether Governor
Shapiro's going to try to, uh,

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tighten the, the so-called
belt on government and,

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um, you know, try, try, try to reign
in spending, uh, maybe lower taxes. I,

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I honestly, I'm not sure what to expect.
I, I think this is his first address.

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I have to give him the, the,
the benefit of the doubt for,

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for what he's gonna do. I, I, I
would hope, uh, you, you know, look,

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we have a very divided
government right now with, um,

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you know, Republicans having
the majority in the Senate,

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Democrats having majority
in, in, in house. So the,

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the budgeting season is going
to be very, very unique.

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So it'll be interesting,

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it'll be very interesting to
see what the governor proposes.

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So, budget related
question, uh, for you, I,

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I've been following the fact
that the courts have, uh,

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found the way that we fund
education here in Pennsylvania,

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uh, to be inappropriate. And, uh,

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they're looking for the legislature
to make a correction to that.

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Um,

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do you think that's something
that Governor Shapiro will
address in his budget,

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budget proposal, and, you know,

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how do you think that affects our
local schools in rural Fayette County?

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Yeah, so that's a great
point, and that, you know,

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that's something that I think he
has to address because that's,

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that's the elephant in the
room, right? I mean, uh, uh,

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education is, as you know, as a
former legislator, I mean, it's the,

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it's the biggest pot of money for,
for a budget, right? Like, it, it,

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it's a massive part of
our budget. Uh, so I,

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I think the governor almost
has to address this in when,

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when one way or the other.
And, you know, I think it's,

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it's a question mark for, for
local districts, Matt, I, and,

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and it all depends on a,
again, the tone that the,

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the governor sets here with it. Uh,
I have my own personal take on it.

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Um, I, I'm not sure, so sure,
I disagree with what the,

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the Supreme Court ruled. I,

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I don't know if I say I agree that they
had the authority to make that ruling,

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though. Um, which y you know, those are,

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those are two things that I think
people often in politics have a trouble,

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um, keeping apart to say, oh, I
agree with the Supreme Court ruling,

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because I agree with their ruling. Uh,

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I will say that I don't think
that they had the quite,

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had the authority to do that.
Um, but the premise of it, I, I,

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I do agree with that. And,

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and that's that public education
funding in this state is not

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fair, right? I, I, I mean,

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all you have to do is look at inequalities
from one school district to another.

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And if you're looking at public
education, Matthew, there,

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there shouldn't be a difference, right?
Like we've said this time and again,

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like your zip code should not
dictate the level of public

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education you get. There really
shouldn't be a difference. I I,

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if there's public, but in our state,

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we have this vast difference, right?

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You have inner city schools and
you have rural schools that,

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that are struggling. Yet you have
some suburban schools, you know,

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that have state-of-the-art
AstroTurf, uh, football fields,

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and you have other schools that can't
buy basic supplies. And that's just,

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that's, that needs to change. Uh,

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regardless of how the Supreme Court
ruled the courts rule, like that,

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it has to change. Uh, and I
think it all goes back to,

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you know, something that, you know,

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I know that we had many disc discussions
about, and, and that's property taxes.

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And, and,

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and that's one of the main
issues that we have with

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education funding, the premise
of that. We, we put this on the,

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the, with the major part
of funding on the backs

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of property owners and,
and on local taxes.

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So I think we need to look at, look
at a bigger, bigger picture. I,

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I personally always believe that schools
should be funded per student, right?

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Like, if you're going to
public school, like you,

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if you look at the number
of students in each school,

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your funding should be
predicated on each student.

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Um, I mean,

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I think this also opens up the door
for discussions about school choice.

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Um, you know, there, there's, there's
a whole lot that's up in the air.

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You could look at the, the way that other
states around us do it, Virginia or,

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or Maryland. But, uh,

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I'm not saying I have the perfect
answer, perfect solution for it.

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But one way or the other,
it, it does have to change.

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And I do think that the
governor has to address this.

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So let's, uh,

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let's kind of peel a little bit more
off of the onion and go a level deeper.

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Um, you know, there's a couple hot,
uh, button phrases that I want to,

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uh, have you kind of explain if
you can, uh, and that that's, uh,

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fair funding formula and the hold
harmless agreement. And then also,

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uh, a multi-port part question.
I've not read the actual, uh,

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opinion of the Supreme Court's ruling.

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I don't know if you've had an opportunity
to do that yet, but was it, uh,

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predicated on the, uh,

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uniformity clause of the
Pennsylvania constitution?

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Because while you were saying
you didn't know if the, uh,

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Supreme Court had the right to rule on it,

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I think if that was the key point
that they were making is that, um,

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we were interfering with
the uniformity clause,

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then I think that would give them,
uh, the freedom to make a ruling,

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uh, on school funding. So can
you expand, expand on, uh,

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some of those points real quick?

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Yeah. So y you know, when you,
you mentioned hold harmless in,

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uh, uh, again, as a former legislate
legislator in, in Fayette County,

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uh, you know,

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this was something that was
important to us because it helped

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our schools maintain a certain
level of funding, right?

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So we're in an area where our
population is, is decreasing.

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We are not bringing in
new people. They're, and,

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um, the, what I'm trying
to say is the, so the,

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the, the tax base here is not say, uh,

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the same as southeastern
Philadelphia, right? Um,

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and hold harmless basically
maintains our, our funding level.

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Now, when you're talking about
the fair funding formula,

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the fair funding formula, basically

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any new money that go into school funding

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basically

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bypasses the hold harmless funding.

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Um, I don't know if that, if,

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if I can say if, if, if there's a
better way to simplify that or not. Um.

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Well, it, it basically,

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it's saying that in areas
where there's population loss,

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they won't lose any money. But areas
where there's population growth, you know,

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the new monies will be expanded
upon, but they may be losing out on,

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uh, on some, yeah, you're completely
correct. Rural Pennsylvania,

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we were worried about that
hold harmless agreement,

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but really, it, it does, uh,

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create inequalities because you
have students that aren't valued,

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or were not paying the same amount
into with state funding, um,

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in the areas of growth. Now,

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where I always thought it was difficult
to right the wrong of this ship was

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the fact that, you know,

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over two thirds of our school districts
were in areas where the hold harmless

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agreement was a positive to them,

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where they wanted to see funding stay
the same because they were seeing a

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decrease. So that means that less than
a third of your school districts are,

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uh, are kind of feeling that
pain. But to write that wrong,

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that means a huge expansion
in education funding,

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unless you, you know,

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would decrease schools in our rural areas.

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Yeah. That, that, that's, that,
that's absolutely right. Uh, you know,

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in the, in what you were mentioning
about the, the Supreme Court, the,

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the rulings too is y
the problem is the, see,

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the, the Supreme Court,

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when you're looking at
the uniformity clause two,

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you're looking at it at
statewide taxes, cuz the local,

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you could have a discrepancy
in local taxes. Uh,

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so for example, you can look at, if you
go to Allegheny County, for example,

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you pay a percent more on sales tax.
Uh, and it's because of the, again,

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it's because of the
property taxes, but, uh,

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it just goes to the bigger picture
of what I've mentioned before.

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The whole property tax system that we use

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to fund schools in the
state is antiquated. And,

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you know, regardless of whether the,

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the court has the jurisdiction or doesn't
have the jurisdiction to do it, it,

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it needs to change that.
That's where I'm at.

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And, you know, I, I think
there's a third rail of, um,

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of politics that exists south there.
And, uh, trust me, you know, I,

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I know having just retired in November,

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we get more calls and letters
about property tax elimination,

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um, than probably any other issue. I,
I know every telephone town hall I had,

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I could guarantee you that property tax
elimination would be a question that I

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got on that call. Um, and
Representative Frank Ryan, who, uh,

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is a good friend of mine, classmate
of mine, he just retired. Um,

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but he was looking at funding, uh,

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education based on, uh,

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the taxation of people's retirements,

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which we don't currently
tax here in Pennsylvania.

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And that's why I said it's kind of a
third rail of the political game because

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a lot of the,

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the elderly population that stay
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because we don't tax those
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but I, I think what's dangerous
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as we shift taxes away from
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we're gonna have to find something else.

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And going from 6% to 7% in a sales

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tax simply doesn't generate the amount
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uh, to, to eliminate or even defray the,

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the property taxes that people pay.

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No, and I, I think it's
a, that's a great point.

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And that's often when
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why can't we do anything about property
taxes? Well, since I've been here,

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there have been multiple attempts,

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and the the failure is always
at exactly what, what, what you,

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what you said, uh, you,

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you have to replace the property
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other taxes. So, and that always,

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that always lies the issue, right?

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Some people want a higher
sales tax to make up for it.

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Some people want a higher income
tax, some people want in between.

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You mentioned Frank Ryan
had his proposal to tax, um,

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re re retirement income, which I know
isn't very popular with a lot of people.

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So that's where the discussions
always felt. So, um,

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you know, I, and then that's what I would
always tell people. I said, don't, I,

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if you talk to your legislators,
you talk to other people,

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don't just tell them
that you're against, uh,

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property taxes or gonna wanna eliminate
'em. If you're serious about it,

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you have to tell them, you know, well,

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how else would you wanna pay for the
schools? Because you, you still, you, if,

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if you eliminated property taxes,

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you would not have enough money to operate
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Well, we have to get to our first break,
uh, representative Warner. But, uh,

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Thanks for sticking with us
here on commonalities. I'm
your host, Matt Dowling,

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alongside my guest for
today, representative Ryan
Warner, who represents, uh,

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Northern Fayette County, the
50, uh, 52nd District. Uh,

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and, uh, representative Warner, you know,

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there was a call for a
special session to take place,

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um, and I think a lot of us from
that were sitting on the outside, uh,

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thought that that may
have happened in January.

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I I think you guys thought it may have
happened in January because you were

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showing up, uh, for scheduled days
that ended up not happening. Uh,

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can you tell me a little bit about
that call for a special session,

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what a special session is and
what's the topic that, uh,

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that people want to
discuss in that session?

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Yeah,

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so basically a special
session can be called

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upon by the governor, uh, or, uh,

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a if half of both chambers call for one,

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they can call theirselves into special
session. And what special sessions are,

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are a, uh,

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different set of operating
rules out, out a normal session,

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whereas you're just focused on one
topic and you basically can't bring up

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other topics. So you,

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it is basically the laser
focus in on one thing,

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and it avoids that topic from
being changed or amended in,

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into something else. That's
not to say that, you know,

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something's going to
definitively get passed or, uh,

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has to get to the Governor.

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It just limits the scope
of what you're able to do

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and, and not do. So that's, that's
the premise of a special session.

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This particular special
session was called Upon,

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it was actually called upon by Governor
Wolf, the first one, uh, prior,

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uh, to Governor Shapiro being
sworn in. And it was for,

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uh, the constitutional amendment to
open up the statute of limitations

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on for sexual abuse, childhood
sexual abuse victims,

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and in Pennsylvania. And

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we were called in the session
for, for three days. And, uh,

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unfortunately, all the representatives
traveled to Harrisburg and the speaker,

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uh, ended up canceling session, uh,

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that was canceled because of the,

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the whole back and forth,
uh, of the speakership, um,

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having the majority of the
Republicans and Democrats swinging at,

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at the same time. So it, it got
us off to a little bit of a,

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of a rocky start.

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And so, you know, that look
back as they referred to it is,

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uh, is something that people
have been trying to address. Uh,

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now for several years, members, uh,

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both on the Republican
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have introduced legislation. I
know of representative Jim Gregory,

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who is, uh, uh,

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a Republican representative Rozi, who, uh,

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who was speaker for a short period of
time, repre, uh, introduced legislation.

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Um, and, and they were, you
know, particularly looking up to,

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to open that statute of
limitations. And, uh, I,

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my question to you is,
do you think that, uh,

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that's something that will
get accomplished here in
the next couple months, uh,

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especially before budget time?

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Or will the priority shift to
the budget and this matter kind

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of be left to be addressed
at a later date and time?

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Yeah, you know, that's
gonna be up to the Senate,

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um, because it has been sent back.
I mean, it, it's in their hands now,

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but I, I think I do have to
mention though, Matthew, when,

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when we were both here, uh,

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this constitutional amendment was
actually, it was actually passed, right?

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So it was actually, it was
passed two sessions in a row,

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and it was set to go to the voters
for referendum as every constitutional

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amendment does.

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But it was not properly advertised
by the Wolf Administration.

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Uh, and because of that <laugh>,

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the amendment legally was thought
allowed to be proposed to the voter.

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So it actually went through
the course of the le,

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which is very difficult to
do in the first place, uh,

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which is why we're taking this back up
again and why it would needed to be voted

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on yet a third time,

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an unprecedented third time in a
row for a constitutional amendment

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to reach voters.

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In, in that area.

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That error would've fallen
on the Secretary of State
and the Department of State

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for not advertising properly, correct?

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Yes, that's correct. Yes. I mean,
it was a very, I mean, there,

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there's no way to, to, to
beat around the bush. They,

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they was just a very
bad oversight, very bad.

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So, you know, we've been talking
about childhood sexual, uh, abuse,

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and I wanna move, uh, the topic to, uh,

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to sexual harassment and
sexual harassment by members

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of the General Assembly. Uh, you know,

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I know this has long been a problem. Uh,

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we have seen the Me Too
movement, which has, uh,

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come in and has been widely, uh,

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applauded but also widely
criticized because, um, you know,

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we have some colleagues
in the past that have, uh,

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received accusations of
sexual harassment, um,

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but then they weren't able to file
any charges or to substantiate

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those allegations. Um,

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but now comes new allegations
of a current sitting member,

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uh, a Democrat, uh, from Delaware
County, I believe. And, uh,

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and I wanted to kind of get, get your
perspective on what needs to happen,

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uh, should the House and the Senate
be able to better police themselves

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and to keep their members in
line whenever, um, they step,

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step outta line and, uh, and
something like this occurs.

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Yeah. So yeah, I, I mean,

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absolutely they should be able to better
police themselves, but there, there,

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I mean, there's, the, the, the
opportunity is, is there now,

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uh, I I I think the difficulty here,

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Matthew, is that the, that the
Democrats set, set a precedent.

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And I, I look back at, uh,

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justice Kavanaugh when he was being, um,

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during his nomination, right?

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And the incident period.

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Yeah, they're in the
confirmation hearings. Uh,

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there was a certain precedent
set there, right? Um,

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and

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we can fast forward to look at the
example of what's going on in, in, in the,

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in the house. Um,

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if Representative Zabel is indeed

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y you know, actually done what
he's been accused of doing,

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then yet he needs to step down.
There's, there's not a, there's there,

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there's no question about it. Uh, I, I
think at this point thing here is though,

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is that the Democrat party
hasn't even acknowledged it,

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and they've known about it since, um,

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December, January. I don't know the
they, but they've known about it for,

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for a few months. Uh,
and you have to wonder,

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is it because they had a one seat
majority in the house that they

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didn't do anything? So
it's like, you know,

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do is it believe survivors and

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Me Too. I mean, that's a rally cry,

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but when one of their own has been accused
of it, there was deafening silence.

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Uh, so I mean, that's my
observation into it, is, is that,

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um,

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their party should be handling this
the way that they handle the other

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accusations. That's all.

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Well, and, and I think there
are a couple points that,

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that we have to make when we look at
accusations of this kind. You know,

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w we all have a, a constitutional
right to confront, uh,

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our accusers if, uh, if we're accused of,

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of committing a crime against
someone. So of course, we,

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we want to hear Representative
Sables side of the story. Um,

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but you know, there, there
in question is, um, you know,

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did something happen? Did something
not happen? And you know, I,

453
00:29:23,910 --> 00:29:26,550
I've read that he doesn't
plan to step down.

454
00:29:26,550 --> 00:29:31,150
He plans to get help or
treatment for some type of,

455
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,030
um, uh, health issue or issues as,

456
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,190
as some of the newspapers have reported,

457
00:29:37,410 --> 00:29:40,870
but they didn't say what those
issues were. And I just think it's,

458
00:29:40,990 --> 00:29:45,440
it's a little bit concerning that you
have sitting members of the house under

459
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:49,160
these type of accusations.
Um, and like I said,

460
00:29:49,350 --> 00:29:53,680
I don't think that you can automatically
remove someone because they have a

461
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,880
right to confront their accuser. Um, and,

462
00:29:56,900 --> 00:30:01,840
and we do want to hear their side
of the story. Um, but what is, uh,

463
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:06,240
or seems to be happening, I believe
is a little bit troubling. Now,

464
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:10,400
when we look at this from a
political perspective, um, you know,

465
00:30:10,510 --> 00:30:14,240
I think the, the seat that
Representative Zabel has, um,

466
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,520
I know when I first came into the house,
that was a seat held by a Republican,

467
00:30:17,550 --> 00:30:21,800
I believe, uh, and then he
was elected two years later.

468
00:30:22,260 --> 00:30:26,760
But we've lost all of those Delaware
County seats as, as Republicans.

469
00:30:27,370 --> 00:30:31,360
Um, you know, truth of the matter is,
if the Democrats asked him to step down,

470
00:30:31,790 --> 00:30:36,480
that's probably not a seat that you
guys as Republicans could even pick up.

471
00:30:36,530 --> 00:30:40,240
So I don't see a political downside, uh,

472
00:30:40,250 --> 00:30:44,960
to them calling out the
situation and asking him to, uh,

473
00:30:45,010 --> 00:30:49,680
to address it and to either
step down or, uh, you know,

474
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:50,760
to prove his innocence.

475
00:30:51,630 --> 00:30:53,240
Yeah. And, and again, I I,

476
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,840
I think that's just been the
troubling thing I is that

477
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:02,320
their caucus has been just completely
silent on it, Matt, I, I mean, there, the,

478
00:31:03,490 --> 00:31:04,760
it, it was, you know,

479
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,360
don't pay attention to the guy behind
the curtain type of thing. Right? That,

480
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,720
and, and that, that to
me is a little troubling,

481
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,160
especially when you just
have a, a one seat majority.

482
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,960
But you have to think even, you know,
if you have a one seat majority,

483
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,160
if you ask a member to
step down and resign,

484
00:31:18,580 --> 00:31:23,460
you no longer have a majority
until that seats filled.

485
00:31:26,290 --> 00:31:29,900
Yeah. And so it does make for, for some
complications. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>,

486
00:31:29,900 --> 00:31:33,900
we need to get one more break in here
real quick, and then when we come back,

487
00:31:34,010 --> 00:31:38,620
I want to talk about your personal
legislative priorities, uh,

488
00:31:38,620 --> 00:31:40,740
for the next session and, uh,

489
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,860
and let you kind of address some of
the things that you're working on.

490
00:31:43,860 --> 00:31:46,140
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Thanks for staying with us.
I'm your host, Matt Dowling,

550
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,680
alongside our guest today,
representative Ryan Warner. Uh,

551
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,160
state representative for the
northern part of Fayette County,

552
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,080
representative Warner. Before
we went to break, I said, uh,

553
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,360
that I was gonna give you the, uh,

554
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:53,440
chance to talk about your legislative
priorities. Um, you know, it,

555
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:58,200
it's a little harder now. Um,
when I served in the house,

556
00:35:58,260 --> 00:36:02,840
you know, having the Republican majority
and having a Republican senate, um,

557
00:36:03,170 --> 00:36:06,480
it wasn't easy to get
legislation across the line,

558
00:36:06,860 --> 00:36:10,880
but at least it was our
committee chairs that, uh,

559
00:36:11,030 --> 00:36:15,760
that could make a dec decision to
run one of the Republican bills. Uh,

560
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:20,560
out of committee, uh, we had
speakership, which, uh, in the,

561
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,720
the majority leader who was
controlling the calendar,

562
00:36:24,140 --> 00:36:26,280
and then we could punt over to the Senate.

563
00:36:26,650 --> 00:36:29,360
So I know things will be a
little bit more difficult,

564
00:36:29,380 --> 00:36:34,200
but what's on your radar or your
agenda for, uh, the next two years?

565
00:36:36,290 --> 00:36:40,820
Yeah, so I, I mean, you bring up some,
some great points. It, it does not,

566
00:36:40,820 --> 00:36:44,620
you know, not being in the majority
does make things a little bit more,

567
00:36:44,620 --> 00:36:48,220
more difficult, but it doesn't
make things impossible. I mean,

568
00:36:48,220 --> 00:36:51,500
having discussions with, with
the, with the Senate, I mean,

569
00:36:52,340 --> 00:36:56,540
there will be, uh, I, I think because
of this, you're gonna see a lot of,

570
00:36:56,540 --> 00:37:00,900
you'll, you'll see bipartisan
package, uh, of bills.

571
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,700
And, you know, having a
one seat majority isn't,

572
00:37:05,700 --> 00:37:10,300
isn't that big of a majority in sense of
the fact that you do have some moderate

573
00:37:10,740 --> 00:37:11,300
Democrats that,

574
00:37:11,300 --> 00:37:15,260
that won't be able to vote with some of
the foreign left wing stuff, uh, that,

575
00:37:15,260 --> 00:37:20,140
that may be proposed from
Philadelphia. Uh, so I, I mean,

576
00:37:20,140 --> 00:37:22,540
I'm gonna continue to push
forward because again,

577
00:37:22,540 --> 00:37:26,580
the majorities can even change throughout
the course of, of this session, right?

578
00:37:26,670 --> 00:37:29,620
So I'll keep advocating
for the things that,

579
00:37:29,620 --> 00:37:32,700
that I've advocated for previously. Uh,

580
00:37:32,700 --> 00:37:36,900
I will continuously push the
Taxpayer Protection Act. Uh, I,

581
00:37:36,900 --> 00:37:41,600
I know multiple, um, conservative and,

582
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,680
and good government groups have this
at, at the top of their list as a,

583
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,920
as a piece of legislation that,
that they push for. And, uh, uh,

584
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:53,280
the Taxpayer Protection Act basically
just limits the amount of money that that

585
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,720
government can spend, uh,

586
00:37:55,720 --> 00:38:00,000
constrains the budgets to a
percentage of population increase,

587
00:38:00,730 --> 00:38:05,280
uh, and, and inflation, uh, increase. Uh,

588
00:38:05,660 --> 00:38:06,800
I'm working on a,

589
00:38:06,870 --> 00:38:11,160
a package of bills right now for
combating illegal immigration,

590
00:38:11,810 --> 00:38:16,760
uh, particularly going after
sanctuary city statuses. Uh, look,

591
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,600
fentanyl is becoming such a major, major,

592
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,960
major issue in this country. Uh,

593
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:29,920
the drug epidemic in general is a
major, major issue in this country.

594
00:38:31,410 --> 00:38:36,080
Uh, and if the federal government
isn't gonna do anything

595
00:38:36,650 --> 00:38:41,440
to try to stop that influx of
drugs from coming up through the

596
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:45,800
border, then, then I'm going to
track here in Pennsylvania at least,

597
00:38:46,930 --> 00:38:51,240
um, because that's one
of the largest sources

598
00:38:52,910 --> 00:38:57,860
of the drugs coming into this
country, coming across the border. Uh,

599
00:38:57,860 --> 00:39:02,820
and I'm also working on a package of
welfare, good welfare reform bills.

600
00:39:03,510 --> 00:39:04,343
Um,

601
00:39:04,930 --> 00:39:08,660
namely there's a bill I'm working on that,

602
00:39:08,660 --> 00:39:12,900
that deals with out-of-state
E B T card spending. Uh,

603
00:39:13,650 --> 00:39:14,020
I mean,

604
00:39:14,020 --> 00:39:18,100
a lot of people would be shocked to
know that there's e v t car spending in

605
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:24,140
all 50 states, <laugh> and, excuse me,

606
00:39:25,110 --> 00:39:29,580
in some of the territories
in, uh, in, in our country,

607
00:39:29,790 --> 00:39:33,580
uh, including Guam, <laugh>, uh,

608
00:39:33,810 --> 00:39:35,660
millions of dollars spent in Florida,

609
00:39:35,730 --> 00:39:40,500
millions of dollars spent in North
Carolina, uh, millions of dollars,

610
00:39:40,910 --> 00:39:44,940
uh, spent a lot of vacationing areas, uh,

611
00:39:44,940 --> 00:39:49,940
that the taxpayers
deserve to know why. Uh,

612
00:39:50,190 --> 00:39:54,340
so again, we'll be working on
good government reforms, um,

613
00:39:54,690 --> 00:39:58,620
limiting spending, the illegal
immigration stuff in the welfare reform,

614
00:39:58,620 --> 00:40:00,260
and will be some of the stuff
we'll be pushing forward.

615
00:40:01,330 --> 00:40:05,540
Well, you know, and, and one of the
bills that I had worked on and, uh,

616
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,500
had vetoed by Governor Wolf was, uh,

617
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,420
was one that I think would fit in nicely
with the package that you were just

618
00:40:12,420 --> 00:40:13,253
discussing,

619
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:17,420
and that was Medicaid work requirements
for those that were able bodied people

620
00:40:17,420 --> 00:40:20,500
so that we're able-bodied people. So
I hope someone picks up the baton and,

621
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:25,340
and passes that. Uh, and because, um, we,

622
00:40:25,590 --> 00:40:29,100
we had bipartisan support
whenever, uh, I had that bill.

623
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:33,540
And I think it's something that
a lot of people in our area of,

624
00:40:33,540 --> 00:40:36,780
regardless of political
party would agree that, uh,

625
00:40:36,780 --> 00:40:41,340
that able-bodied people should go
out and at least look for work.

626
00:40:41,510 --> 00:40:44,660
Uh, and if, if they can't find a job, uh,

627
00:40:44,670 --> 00:40:48,500
at least fulfill some requirements
through volunteering, uh,

628
00:40:49,310 --> 00:40:52,900
or things of that nature. So,
you know, I, that's a bill I,

629
00:40:52,900 --> 00:40:55,580
I hope someone picks up
and, uh, and runs with,

630
00:40:55,670 --> 00:40:58,820
because we got it past the
finish line and then, uh,

631
00:40:58,820 --> 00:41:02,940
got it to the governor's desk and, and
it was vetoed, uh, a few years back.

632
00:41:02,940 --> 00:41:03,300
Yeah.

633
00:41:03,300 --> 00:41:05,220
Yeah. We were actually just, uh,

634
00:41:05,220 --> 00:41:08,940
just discussing that and discussing
that it was bipartisan and, you know,

635
00:41:08,940 --> 00:41:13,020
you bring up a good point. It wasn't,
uh, it wasn't too over the top.

636
00:41:13,020 --> 00:41:16,920
You were just asking people to at least
search for work if they were able to

637
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:17,753
body.

638
00:41:17,930 --> 00:41:19,390
And, uh, you know,

639
00:41:19,390 --> 00:41:24,350
and one thing I'll say about that Bill
were a couple things we had written

640
00:41:24,380 --> 00:41:24,990
into it,

641
00:41:24,990 --> 00:41:29,710
exemptions for pretty much anything
you could think of if you were a victim

642
00:41:29,710 --> 00:41:33,640
of domestic violence, if you were
taking care of an elderly, uh,

643
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:37,640
parent that was on
hospice, uh, et cetera. We,

644
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:41,720
we exempted all those people.
And the key thing that, uh,

645
00:41:41,720 --> 00:41:46,640
that I wanna point out about work
requirements I, is the fact that,

646
00:41:47,210 --> 00:41:48,240
um, you know,

647
00:41:48,260 --> 00:41:52,680
you have to get permission from the
federal government to put those work

648
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,160
requirements in place.

649
00:41:54,780 --> 00:41:59,440
And so passing this in Pennsylvania
would allow us to apply,

650
00:42:00,250 --> 00:42:00,740
uh,

651
00:42:00,740 --> 00:42:05,400
for a exemption that would
allow us to put those work

652
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:10,160
requirements in place. And what's
actually interesting is President Clinton,

653
00:42:10,450 --> 00:42:10,800
uh,

654
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:15,640
a democrat is who allowed for
that process to even happen.

655
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:20,120
This was legislation from
his error era that, uh,

656
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:20,880
that was allowed.

657
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:25,640
It was then rescinded by
the Obama administration and
brought back by the Trump

658
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:30,400
administration. Uh, I went to DC a
few times to, to work on the bill,

659
00:42:30,730 --> 00:42:35,160
uh, with the Trump
administration. And, uh, but I I,

660
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:39,200
I do think that there's a,
a renewed call, uh, for,

661
00:42:39,250 --> 00:42:42,240
as you called 'em, good
government bills. Um,

662
00:42:42,240 --> 00:42:44,840
we're getting to our last couple
minutes here of the program.

663
00:42:45,310 --> 00:42:50,040
I wanna give you an opportunity to tell
listeners how they can get ahold of you.

664
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,080
I know your office in, in Mont, uh,

665
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:58,320
which was your main district office,
had to move or has to move. Um,

666
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,400
so give us your contact information.
Where can people find you?

667
00:43:01,740 --> 00:43:06,080
And if they need assistance
with things like rent rebates or

668
00:43:06,330 --> 00:43:08,440
elderly people that went, uh,

669
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:12,280
their discount on renewing
their tags for their cars, um,

670
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,840
how can they get ahold of, of your
office and get that help that they need?

671
00:43:16,150 --> 00:43:20,560
Yeah, absolutely. So our
phone number has not changed.

672
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:25,040
It's still 7 2 4 4 3 7 1 1 0 5. You,

673
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,840
you can more than welcome
to give the office a call.

674
00:43:28,220 --> 00:43:30,840
Our main office did move
because of the district changes.

675
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,680
So we are now on Pittsburgh Street
in Connellsville, so you could,

676
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,400
you can look for us there. We wi
that office isn't quite open yet.

677
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,120
We will be ha we'll be doing
an announcement here. Uh,

678
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that office will be fully
opened here shortly.

679
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Our Perus office is still
open Monday, Wednesday,

680
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and Friday. Uh, so, uh oh. And you can,

681
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you can also email us at our
warner pa house g o p.com.

682
00:43:57,100 --> 00:43:58,270
Well, thank you so much,

683
00:43:58,270 --> 00:44:01,630
representative Warner for being our
guest here on commonalities today.

684
00:44:01,980 --> 00:44:03,990
Lots of luck to you and, uh,

685
00:44:04,290 --> 00:44:09,230
and I hope you enjoy and hear some
good things in, in the budget address,

686
00:44:09,230 --> 00:44:13,190
which is scheduled for, uh, for the
morning that this episode will air.

687
00:44:13,190 --> 00:44:14,630
Thanks so much for being with us.

688
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,270
Matthew. Thank you so much.

689
00:44:17,340 --> 00:44:19,390
This has been commonalities,

690
00:44:19,660 --> 00:44:23,910
a show where guests find common
ground through uncommon conversations.

691
00:44:23,990 --> 00:44:26,750
Copyright 2022 coordinated 360,

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00:44:26,970 --> 00:44:30,470
all public rebroadcast should be done
with prior written approval from Matthew

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00:44:30,470 --> 00:44:35,190
Dowling. All requests should be sent
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00:44:35,190 --> 00:44:37,870
Thank you for listening to commonalities.

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